Montana is on fire: These were posted on a friends Facebook page. Its a terrible and serious situation. Now they are saying the best option is to hope for snow. As a longtime MT...

ggttc Loc: TN

These were posted on a friends Facebook page. Its a terrible and serious situation.

Now they are saying the best option is to hope for snow.

As a longtime MT resident who has relocated I pray for these folks and the beautiful land that will be scarred for years.

Natures cruel counterpoint to the events in Texas.

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NMGal Loc: NE NM

These photos have impact. You have my prayers.

I STOP TO SHOOT Loc: By the No. CA Sea

ggttc wrote:

These were posted on a friends Facebook page. Its a terrible and serious situation.

Now they are saying the best option is to hope for snow.

As a longtime MT resident who has relocated I pray for these folks and the beautiful land that will be scarred for years.

Natures cruel counterpoint to the events in Texas.

ggttc: There are no words one can say for life's tragedies my heart aches and I find myself shedding tears for all the traumatic dangers for human life and nature I know it makes one stronger and thank heavens for that.... Thank you for sharing these pictures....

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

ggttc wrote:

These were posted on a friends Facebook page. Its a terrible and serious situation.

Now they are saying the best option is to hope for snow.

As a longtime MT resident who has relocated I pray for these folks and the beautiful land that will be scarred for years.

Natures cruel counterpoint to the events in Texas.

Current acreage lost is well over 600,000 acres, and still more than 40 fires burning at various stages of containment. Tough year here for everybody with the record heat and record drought affecting 80% of the state.

ggttc Loc: TN

MT Shooter wrote:

Current acreage lost is well over 600,000 acres, and still more than 40 fires burning at various stages of containment. Tough year here for everybody with the record heat and record drought affecting 80% of the state.

OMG...I thought it was in the 50-60,000 range.

Nothing on national media about this. I get info from friends.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

ggttc wrote:

OMG...I thought it was in the 50-60,000 range.

Nothing on national media about this. I get info from friends.

Its Montana, national media always ignores what is going on here unless the rest of the country is totally quiet for news.

Quaking Aspen Loc: Cottage Grove, OR

There are huge wildfires going on all around the world from Greenland (yes Greenland!) to Siberia. Here in Oregon the weather forecast is for 100F temperatures for the next several days. It will probably remain cooler than that because the smoke from the wildfires is so thick it is blocking a lot of the sunlight. It's a devil's bargain, choke on the smoke or roast under the hot sun. We haven't had rain since early June so things are tinder dry. It's getting so that I dread summertime. At least we are still getting rain in the winter.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Still is far from the 1910 fire of that area. So very fortunate for planes and such today.

I STOP TO SHOOT wrote:

ggttc: There are no words one can say for life's tragedies my heart aches and I find myself shedding tears for all the traumatic dangers for human life and nature I know it makes one stronger and thank heavens for that.... Thank you for sharing these pictures....

Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada

"Natures cruel counterpoint to the events in Texas."
Both of these events could be a result of climate change. Climate models predict more water in the atmosphere resulting in more frequent and more severe storms and shifting precipitation patterns. Some areas are getting wetter and some drier. Forests become grasslands and grasslands desert. Some areas will get much wetter. but the question is whether or not vegetation can move fast enough to avoid extinction?

skylinefirepest Loc: Southern Pines, N.C.

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Harvey wrote:

Still is far from the 1910 fire of that area. So very fortunate for planes and such today.

According to Univ. of Washington atmospheric scientist Cliff Mass so call climate change has pretty much nothing to do with the brutality of Harvey. The warm gulf is always an engine for storms and it stalled due to weather fronts.

Quaking Aspen Loc: Cottage Grove, OR

skylinefirepest wrote:

A According to Univ. of Washington atmospheric scientist Cliff Mass so call climate change has pretty much nothing to do with the brutality of Harvey. The warm gulf is always an engine for storms and it stalled due to weather fronts.

Cliff Mass apparently doesn't have much credibility in the general climatology community. I believe that Dr. Michael Mann has a better understanding of the physics involved in recent record strength hurricanes such as the ones that have hit the Philippines over the last few years. Likewise, while you can't say the wildfires are caused by global warming, they certainly are exacerbated by the record temperatures and the melting and drying out of permafrost among other things.

skylinefirepest Loc: Southern Pines, N.C.

Quaking Aspen wrote:

Cliff Mass apparently doesn't have much credibility in the general climatology community. I believe that Dr. Michael Mann has a better understanding of the physics involved in recent record strength hurricanes such as the ones that have hit the Philippines over the last few years. Likewise, while you can't say the wildfires are caused by global warming, they certainly are exacerbated by the record temperatures and the melting and drying out of permafrost among other things.

As an ex-Air Force meteorologist I do agree with him on this one...climate change had nothing to do with Harvey, far as I'm concerned.

oregon don

Harvey wrote:

Still is far from the 1910 fire of that area. So very fortunate for planes and such today.

I read that there is a Boeing 747 outfitted as a water bomber and the forest service has it locked up in a hanger in California.....WHAT GIVES?

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

You mean this one?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/idaho/articles/2017-07-15/debate-over-use-of-jumbo-bomber-as-wildfires-rage-in-west

ghill42 Loc: Colorado

My loco news station reported the 747 now has a good-to-go from the forest service.