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Sep 14, 2017 22:04:49   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
I know you want her dress exposed and for that people have already given their opinion.

But for fun did you think about exposing for the stain glass, have them as far off the glass as you can and then use a speed light from the rear to make some rim light silhouette. Have their lips 4 - 6 inches apart .... you know the drill.

You get the detail of the glass but a very intimate picture of the couple.

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Sep 14, 2017 22:33:31   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
Beercat wrote:
I know you want her dress exposed and for that people have already given their opinion.

But for fun did you think about exposing for the stain glass, have them as far off the glass as you can and then use a speed light from the rear to make some rim light silhouette. Have their lips 4 - 6 inches apart .... you know the drill.

You get the detail of the glass but a very intimate picture of the couple.


I'll try to give it a go. Could be interesting. I have thought about shooting through the stained glass but it might create a strange pattern with the framing of the doors.

This scene is kind of an afterthought. The reception is very close to a lighthouse. Have you any experience with lighthouses in California?

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Sep 15, 2017 08:13:29   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
jaysnave wrote:
I'll try to give it a go. Could be interesting. I have thought about shooting through the stained glass but it might create a strange pattern with the framing of the doors.

This scene is kind of an afterthought. The reception is very close to a lighthouse. Have you any experience with lighthouses in California?


How are your photoshop skills? If they are willing victims...I mean, participants. I would greatly underexpose the background, use speedlights to light them, then photoshop in some light coming from the lighthouse. If there are a lot of clouds, it could be VERY dramatic. As Jerry would call it "the money shot"

I don't have any lighthouses here in landlocked Indiana, but I'm always looking for something to come up with a dramatic photo. Around here, it normally involves corn or soybeans......yeah, not too dramatic. Normally involves more like a bonfire, or barn.

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Sep 15, 2017 09:44:57   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
I always consider my job as a photographer is to document the day. Pictures need to be properly exposed and of course great candid moments are nice. But lets be honest, many photographers can do that ... what separates photographers are the money shots, the ones that will be shared by the couple with all their friends and family. No B&G is going to share 100's of pictures, but if they have them the money shoots will be the ones they share, the ones that will make you the 'greatest' in their opinion and probably get you more jobs. I love dramatic lighting and solid off-camera lightly on posed shots ... if I can deliver 10 money shots I've done my job and of course I'll be the 'greatest' :)

I've been doing wedding videos for 18 years but only wedding photography for 3 years, much more to learn, wish I was 30 years younger but I'm pleased that I can deliver what I have in my short amount of time behind the viewfinder.

This would be one of my favorite money shots from last weekend ... well composed, solid off-camera lighting and a B&G into the moment of the shoot. I'll guarantee this will be one they share and will print/frame for the wall.


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Sep 15, 2017 11:47:53   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
Thanks guys for the suggestions. My photoshop skills are as good as the time I put into it. The biggest issue with the lighthouse is the positioning. Lighthouse is very tall and people are much smaller. To get them both is getting the positioning. Here is a set of "idea" locations all around the reception venue. Please understand these are not finished photos. No attempt to expose for the people or background to any degree. The people are random volunteers to just stand in a spot for composition check. I did not bring lighting. Just composition trials. What do you think? Composition ideas, I am not worried about the lighting or post I need to work in wedding party pics as well.


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Sep 15, 2017 12:01:11   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Did you think about a prospective shot?

Have the Bride and Groom way in the foreground so there about the same size as the lighthouse ......... then have one of them on each side with one finger touching the top (light) on each side of course ... do this as dusk so the light can be seen, you make it a bit brighter in PP ......... The picture is an example ... my BH is really tall ... makes love making particularly tough ... he he

You can also do what I do so often for sunset photos ..... I'm laying on the ground looking upward ;)



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Sep 15, 2017 13:13:17   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
Good idea. Might be good for a fun wedding party shot. I don't think that lighthouse makes light anymore. Unless it is Photoshop light. I like to get down on the ground as well.

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Sep 15, 2017 16:07:22   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
jaysnave wrote:
Good idea. Might be good for a fun wedding party shot. I don't think that lighthouse makes light anymore. Unless it is Photoshop light. I like to get down on the ground as well.


Jerry beat me to it. With perspective, you can make the lighthouse as tall or small as you'd like. They can interact with it, or at least fit it more comfortably in the shot, like your last one with the lighthouse. It is a lot less "distorted" than the first one.

Although, I do remember your post about loving to lay on the floor any chance you get, especially when people are dancing.

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Sep 16, 2017 10:09:49   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
bkyser wrote:
Jerry beat me to it. With perspective, you can make the lighthouse as tall or small as you'd like. They can interact with it, or at least fit it more comfortably in the shot, like your last one with the lighthouse. It is a lot less "distorted" than the first one.

Although, I do remember your post about loving to lay on the floor any chance you get, especially when people are dancing.


HA HA HA HA ... thanks again for the good morning laugh :)

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Sep 19, 2017 10:18:40   #
JPL
 
jaysnave wrote:
OK, this is obviously not a bride. It is my nephew standing where I asked him to. I was on a scouting mission in a church where a wedding will take place in Oct. This is the entrance to the church and the stained glass caught my interest. I didn't have lighting with me to experiment so the question ... How would you light the bride? My tentative plan is to expose for the stained glass and light the bride with a softbox. I don't want the light to spill onto the stained glass and diminish that effect so was considering using a grid on a smaller light source, but I want all of her including the dress exposed. Thoughts, ideas?
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You should better be sure you have the same light on the stained windows. I mean the light from outside.

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Oct 17, 2017 12:08:29   #
papa Loc: Rio Dell, CA
 
How about studio strobe(s) with one or two 48"-60" octagon softboxes, silver reflectors Rembradt w/half to quarter fill or Butterfly and hair light w/20 degree grid; exposure adjusted for ambiance through the stained glass.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:07:32   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
papa wrote:
How about studio strobe(s) with one or two 48"-60" octagon softboxes, silver reflectors Rembradt w/half to quarter fill or Butterfly and hair light w/20 degree grid; exposure adjusted for ambiance through the stained glass.


Thanks for your thoughts, but this is the entrance to the church and things will happen fast. I can not afford the time it would take to create a studio environment on the fly.

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Oct 17, 2017 16:29:31   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
jaysnave wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts, but this is the entrance to the church and things will happen fast. I can not afford the time it would take to create a studio environment on the fly.


Jay, you really need to get yourself a voice activated light stand. High school kids are great for this, you just have to get the right one.

Just budget for it, and add to the cost.

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Oct 17, 2017 17:25:15   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
bkyser wrote:
Jay, you really need to get yourself a voice activated light stand. High school kids are great for this, you just have to get the right one.

Just budget for it, and add to the cost.


There will be available VALS at this wedding. The usual family ones. They work for free just like me. This is a free family gig. Just like the kind you warn against.

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Oct 18, 2017 15:35:41   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
jaysnave wrote:
There will be available VALS at this wedding. The usual family ones. They work for free just like me. This is a free family gig. Just like the kind you warn against.


I'm actually kind of a jerk when it comes to family weddings. I just say that I want to enjoy the moment with them as well.

Now, I have done free shoots for friends, but I like them better than family.

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