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Aug 15, 2017 20:56:56   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
CraigFair wrote:
Beautiful work Sonny especially the Cropped Image great detail.
You have finally found your nitch.
Craig


Thank You Craig!
As I had long suspected, the camera was the culprit.
Now it's just a matter of finding my right settings and gentle post processing.

Oh, and that small thing... the weather.

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Aug 15, 2017 21:52:33   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
Alright Sonny , now you're cooking with grease . shorter subs works well , if you don't mind building a data pile . I'm still learning how to process dso's , they take longer than Lunar /Planetary but, there's more data to figure out what to do with and so many different tools that can be used. I might get the hang of it someday.

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Aug 16, 2017 14:14:08   #
Oknoder Loc: Western North Dakota
 
Very nicely done, looks like your new camera is suiting you well. Since I've been out of the country for a few months I haven't been able to image at all really and cannot wait to get back home. it's nice to see you have a handle on all the new equipment. Pretty sure you will be able to handle almost any issue your equipment can throw at you.

Matthew

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Aug 16, 2017 18:02:22   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Oknoder wrote:
Very nicely done, looks like your new camera is suiting you well. Since I've been out of the country for a few months I haven't been able to image at all really and cannot wait to get back home. it's nice to see you have a handle on all the new equipment. Pretty sure you will be able to handle almost any issue your equipment can throw at you.

Matthew


Well, Godspeed your return, Matthew.
This Infinity is the way imaging for a greenhorn should be.

So far, knock on wood, I've managed to 'fix' anything that's come along.
Looks like good skies ahead. We've had a few days of August clouds that shut me out about the time I get on a target.
I guess it's just telling me to catch up on my sleep...

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Aug 16, 2017 18:27:00   #
Oknoder Loc: Western North Dakota
 
I'll be in the Kentucky area till after the eclipse, depending on the weather.

If this hobby was easy, anyone could do it.
Matthew

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Aug 16, 2017 19:02:22   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
Oknoder wrote:
I'll be in the Kentucky area till after the eclipse, depending on the weather.

If this hobby was easy, anyone could do it.
Matthew

Good luck Matthew.
Craig

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Aug 16, 2017 20:46:55   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Mom and Dad's house is almost on the line for the Eclipse N/W of Nashville.
But schools in and two of the last 3 grand-kids are in school and the baby is with us most days now.
So we'll be seeing it on TV.
Close to the fridge.
And the beer.
And the Fireball.
And the backyard 'observatory'.

The wife just asked if I was sure I didn't want to go.
I told her I was sure.
And I sure don't want to be 'in the crowd'.
Last time I did that was Las Vegas for New Years Eve, some years ago... Insanity.

I'll see you on TV.

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Aug 17, 2017 01:55:43   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
8-14-17 A return imaging for shorter exposures.
These surprised me. 84 images VS: 210 images.

I think I actually prefer the shorter run (Image 1) for better clarity. But the longer (Image 2) seems to have more depth.
But #2 has a haze over it. And I think the center is blown out.
Warrants more experimenting.


I agree. I like the detail of Image #1 better. Perhaps more depth can still be pulled out of image #1. But you would need 16-bit editing capability.

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Aug 17, 2017 12:12:40   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
I agree. I like the detail of Image #1 better. Perhaps more depth can still be pulled out of image #1. But you would need 16-bit editing capability.


I'm still experimenting, but last night did 20 image runs, at 5 second increasing increments. As I got to 60 seconds I wasn't seeing the details I was at 35s, or 40s.
But haven't fiddled with those yet.
I was trying to do a controlled comparison. Controlled is the operative word, control my urges to fiddle with settings.

Beautifully clear night last night here....

OK curiosity got the best of me. I had to peek...
I like the 45 second exposure best. At 50, hot pixels showed up. Even at 10 exposures at 60 seconds was riddled with the tiny buggers, hot pixels. But no jellyfish shown at all, so I think that may be a tracking problem.
So probably the best for the Lagoon Nebula from my point in time was this 45 second tiff X 20 images. Untouched...
And the same after my dabbling. Elements requires the image be in 8 bit to do much at all... But then, I don't do much at all.

OK, I think this dead horse is NOT going to get up....
Time for a new challenge, learning, learning, learning....
But this is a fun growing pain!


20 images-45 second-untouched.tiff
20 images-45 second-untouched.tiff...
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Same after my Post Processing.jpg
Same after my Post Processing.jpg...
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Aug 17, 2017 16:20:47   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
CraigFair wrote:
Beautiful work Sonny especially the Cropped Image great detail.
You have finally found your nitch.
Craig


Hi Craig, sorry for the late reply.
No, found the right camera for my mediocre ways.

The blind mouse found the cheese.

Have fun in Orygon!

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Aug 18, 2017 02:28:07   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
I'm still experimenting, but last night did 20 image runs, at 5 second increasing increments. As I got to 60 seconds I wasn't seeing the details I was at 35s, or 40s.
But haven't fiddled with those yet.
I was trying to do a controlled comparison. Controlled is the operative word, control my urges to fiddle with settings.

Beautifully clear night last night here....

OK curiosity got the best of me. I had to peek...
I like the 45 second exposure best. At 50, hot pixels showed up. Even at 10 exposures at 60 seconds was riddled with the tiny buggers, hot pixels. But no jellyfish shown at all, so I think that may be a tracking problem.
So probably the best for the Lagoon Nebula from my point in time was this 45 second tiff X 20 images. Untouched...
And the same after my dabbling. Elements requires the image be in 8 bit to do much at all... But then, I don't do much at all.

OK, I think this dead horse is NOT going to get up....
Time for a new challenge, learning, learning, learning....
But this is a fun growing pain!

I'm still experimenting, but last night did 20 ima... (show quote)


The 2nd image where you did a bit of processing is really GOOD. I had to look on line for other images of the Lagoon Nebula to compare and you are right up there, playing with the big boys.

Took your TIF file and did a bit of stretching on it and enhanced the red color. There's more there than first thought.


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Aug 18, 2017 03:32:45   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Posting again with a little bit of Star Shrink added.


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Aug 18, 2017 09:17:18   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
Posting again with a little bit of Star Shrink added.


Good, I'm glad you had a go with it. And Thank You Jim, I think I'm on my way, finally.
That Star Shrink looks interesting. I've been thinking for a while now that maybe my mount does a bit of 'hunting' when tracking, and that's how the stars wind up enlarged.
I have another hair-brained idea, again....
My G3 can also be used as a guide camera. So my thoughts was to try it for guiding. Then, if that doesn't turn into a complete debauchery, maybe try to figure out Plate Solving.
So here I go again, orbiting Pluto.

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Aug 18, 2017 23:58:02   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
SonnyE wrote:
I'm still experimenting, but last night did 20 image runs, at 5 second increasing increments. As I got to 60 seconds I wasn't seeing the details I was at 35s, or 40s.
But haven't fiddled with those yet.
I was trying to do a controlled comparison. Controlled is the operative word, control my urges to fiddle with settings.

Beautifully clear night last night here....

OK curiosity got the best of me. I had to peek...
I like the 45 second exposure best. At 50, hot pixels showed up. Even at 10 exposures at 60 seconds was riddled with the tiny buggers, hot pixels. But no jellyfish shown at all, so I think that may be a tracking problem.
So probably the best for the Lagoon Nebula from my point in time was this 45 second tiff X 20 images. Untouched...
And the same after my dabbling. Elements requires the image be in 8 bit to do much at all... But then, I don't do much at all.

OK, I think this dead horse is NOT going to get up....
Time for a new challenge, learning, learning, learning....
But this is a fun growing pain!

I'm still experimenting, but last night did 20 ima... (show quote)

I have so much fun playing with your image data. I think I'll just give up being frustrated about my sky conditions and use your data...

Another great image to start from... Wonderful nebulosity. No clipping. Nice stars. Good color balance.

1st pass in Lightroom. 2nd pass in Photoshop; curves, star reduction, a touch of noise reduction and a touch of sharpening.

bwa

P.S.: In Olympia, WA tonight, on to Salem, OR tomorrow for whatever the weather offers for the eclipse.


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Aug 19, 2017 03:21:26   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
bwana wrote:
I have so much fun playing with your image data. I think I'll just give up being frustrated about my sky conditions and use your data...

Another great image to start from... Wonderful nebulosity. No clipping. Nice stars. Good color balance.

1st pass in Lightroom. 2nd pass in Photoshop; curves, star reduction, a touch of noise reduction and a touch of sharpening.

bwa

P.S.: In Olympia, WA tonight, on to Salem, OR tomorrow for whatever the weather offers for the eclipse.
I have so much fun playing with your image data. ... (show quote)


That's beautiful Brian!
Glad to share! Fun to see what you fellow PP's do with the data. (CathyAnn, stop snickering. )
I'll try and keep some fresh data coming to play with.
There doesn't seem to be much out there I haven't tried to image. Sorry if it's getting boring. I have far more opportunities, than new objects.
So I'm re-working imaging with time and exposure numbers. Trying to compound available data.
I may soon resort to (shudder) clusters.

Good Lord! They showed a line of traffic going North into Orygon from the South on the news.
God Bless you hearty souls making your way to the line!
I hope it works out for you travelers, and you can get your eyes and storage cards full of great shots!

I'll be in the 71% belt...
A cold Ginger Ale, Camera on AVX clicking away, staring up through cardboard glasses.
In my private backyard...

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