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Aug 12, 2017 08:58:05   #
Wes Loc: Dallas
 
I bought a newer computer and need to know how to transfer my applications from my G5 to the A1289.

The G5 is working fine but both Safari and Firefox are acting up, indicating I need to upgrade my OS, which I can't go past the 10.7.5. Any suggestions that will make it useable by a potential buyer?

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Aug 12, 2017 09:20:58   #
Tet68survivor Loc: Pomfret Center CT
 
Not an Apple expert but sounds like when you transferred the Applications to the other computer, the transfer method did not bring all of the files and/or drivers with it! Your are far better off, making sure all drivers on the new computer are up to date, install the programs from scratch, then once again check to make new drivers for those apps are installed! Transferring programs from one computer does not always work flawlessly! Transferring the data files is straight forward, so no real issues should take place. When I get a NEW computer and I want to move my programs of choice, I place my original disk in the CD drive off the old computer, push a few buttons on command, uninstall the app, then take CD to new computer to install. The programmers will not allow you to install all apps more than once or twice without an uninstall along the line! The best bet more expensive route is to buy a new app and install fresh! By the way the next computer needs to meet certain app requirements, if it doesn't, it's going to tell you strange things and drive you nuts! Just my experience, someone may know a secret! I know I will be watching here to see!

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Aug 12, 2017 09:24:22   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I had a Mac G5 and this computer was not sold anymore and 2006. 10 years ago. We are now up to OS 10.12.6.

I remember this machine having a hard drive failure and it didn't last as long as my Mac 27 today which going on 7 years.

Recent years Mac has a great system that you connect your new computer and your complete software and files are

transferred to the new computer. If the G5 is still working you can get your files off them to an external drive.

That is about it. I think much of your software will notwork on your machines. Settings and drivers not going

to work. Good luck.

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Aug 12, 2017 09:47:09   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
Apple switched from using PowerPC processors to Intel processors maybe ten years ago. Whatever applications you have, had on your G5 are incompatible with any of the newer Intel based Apple Computers. They did have a compatibility mode way back in OSX Tiger or whatever, but that compatibility mode was eventually discontinued, retired. You can easily transfer all of your data, but not any of the applications.

I had Apple Works on my G4 and I would have loved to have kept it and been able to continue using it on my newer Mac, but it was not meant to be.



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Aug 12, 2017 17:55:11   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
I had to do some sleuthing to figure out what your question was. It sounds like you are moving from an "older" Mac Pro that maxes out at OS 10.7.5 (Lion) to a Mac Pro that is "newer" and can use Sierra OS 10.12.

The "best" way would be to install them fresh on the newer Mac using the serial numbers that came with the installers. Some apps on the newer OS might need "helper" apps that were installed by default on Lion and are not commonly used on Sierra {like Legacy Java that is required for Adobe CS 6}. Then when you know that the applications work you can copy over the data. As far as prepping the "old" Mac for a potential buyer just boot to the original OS install disk and format the drive and re-install. It will then contact Apple and update as far as it can.

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Aug 12, 2017 19:33:36   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
MichaelH wrote:
I had to do some sleuthing to figure out what your question was. It sounds like you are moving from an "older" Mac Pro that maxes out at OS 10.7.5 (Lion) to a Mac Pro that is "newer" and can use Sierra OS 10.12.

The "best" way would be to install them fresh on the newer Mac using the serial numbers that came with the installers. Some apps on the newer OS might need "helper" apps that were installed by default on Lion and are not commonly used on Sierra {like Legacy Java that is required for Adobe CS 6}. Then when you know that the applications work you can copy over the data. As far as prepping the "old" Mac for a potential buyer just boot to the original OS install disk and format the drive and re-install. It will then contact Apple and update as far as it can.
I had to do some sleuthing to figure out what your... (show quote)


Apparently, you also don't know that there are Processor (CPU) differences between the older G5 Mac and the newer Intel based Mac's which makes the older software incompatible with the newer CPUs.

PowerPC is a microprocessor architecture that was developed jointly by Apple, IBM, and Motorola. The PowerPC employs reduced instruction-set computing (RISC). The three developing companies have made the PowerPC architecture an open standard, inviting other companies to build on it.

Apple does not use the PowerPC anymore because Apple migrated to Intel's x86 in 2006!

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Aug 12, 2017 19:58:24   #
Wes Loc: Dallas
 
I knew someone in Silicon Valley could help. I don't use Java but do use Javscript and PHP. I also have the complete Adobe set of programs.

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Aug 12, 2017 20:00:48   #
Wes Loc: Dallas
 
Thanks. I'm hoping my Adobe 6.5 will work.

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Aug 12, 2017 22:53:08   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
Earworms wrote:
Apparently, you also don't know that there are Processor (CPU) differences between the older G5 Mac and the newer Intel based Mac's which makes the older software incompatible with the newer CPUs.

PowerPC is a microprocessor architecture that was developed jointly by Apple, IBM, and Motorola. The PowerPC employs reduced instruction-set computing (RISC). The three developing companies have made the PowerPC architecture an open standard, inviting other companies to build on it.

Apple does not use the PowerPC anymore because Apple migrated to Intel's x86 in 2006!
Apparently, you also don't know that there are Pro... (show quote)

I am sorry I wasn't more clear that I was assuming the "old" G5 was an early INTEL Mac Pro that only updates to Lion I think because of the reason you mentioned. I think INTEL changed/increased the variety of instructions the CPU could understand and Apple never looked back. Some newer Mac Pros can upgrade past Lion. We have PowerPC G5s, old Lion Mac Pros and one newer Mac Pro G5 type [not the pretty cylinder]. They are all built like a tank.

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Aug 12, 2017 23:07:58   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
Wes wrote:
Thanks. I'm hoping my Adobe 6.5 will work.

We were using iMacs with Adobe CS 6 Suite and were not upgrading past Mountain Lion in order to avoid any issues. We ended up needing to replace a few Macs and you cannot get the OS "downgraded" like you can/could with Windows so our we were forced into the present. Most everything worked but the Java Runtime Environment {a library of code that many applications use or used to use} was required for Adobe CS 6. And the reason that I suggested you install from the install disk or downloaded installer is that it will then install the application code that is for your new OS and not the old OS. {For example CS 6 on a Lion Mac Pro does not install the same updates as a the same CS 6 on a newer Mac Pro that is OS 10.8.}

So update your new Mac Pro and then install the software. Good luck.

If you can't get more than a couple of hundred bucks I would keep the old Mac Pro.
Just Google "Java for OS X 2015-001" and you get to an Apple site that you can download the JAVA needed by Adobe.

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Aug 13, 2017 09:46:24   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
If you live near an Apple store, the Genius Bar would be the best place to help you.

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Aug 13, 2017 12:08:57   #
Wes Loc: Dallas
 
sueyeisert wrote:
If you live near an Apple store, the Genius Bar would be the best place to help you.


I thought about that. I have had good luck with the genius bar even though Apple says the G5 is too old to mess with. If I can get both "tanks" over there, and if Ican get them to do teh transfer for me, that will be a real good deal.

Thanks for reminding me.

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Aug 13, 2017 13:35:07   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
To decide the G5 value look at the cpu ship specification. If it is PowerMac only, it will only ge useable on the lower numbered OSX versions. To be even close an Intel cpu is needed.

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Aug 13, 2017 14:28:46   #
Wes Loc: Dallas
 
Thanks to everyone for your help. Here is a little more information that I should have included originally: My G5 Processor: 2 x2 GHz Dual-core Intel Xeon

Serial Number G86480QMUPZ
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)

While I work with Photoshop, Javascript, PHP, etc. I'm not very computer literate as far as to what makes it work. And obviously a little nervoous about downloading to the newer computer.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:34:30   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
Wes wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your help. Here is a little more information that I should have included originally: My G5 Processor: 2 x2 GHz Dual-core Intel Xeon

Serial Number G86480QMUPZ
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)

While I work with Photoshop, Javascript, PHP, etc. I'm not very computer literate as far as to what makes it work. And obviously a little nervoous about downloading to the newer computer.

Good luck with the transfer. Remember to not change anything on the older Mac until you are satisfied that all is well on the newer Mac. You can Private Message me if you do not have any luck with the Genius Bar.

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