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Aug 7, 2017 00:07:10   #
Dr J Loc: NE Florida
 
Hello Hoggers,
With my Nikon D500 and their 200-500 for wildlife photography I am very pleased - great combo in my experience! I am considering adding the Nikon TC-14lll tele. I heard comments from a few not happy (loss of sharpness etc) when tele used with an APS-C/crop sensor camera. I know I will lose one stop of light and it will make camera stability more critical and will have to fine tune the tele and lens as a unit.
Anyone with experience and advice with this set-up would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Dennis

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Aug 7, 2017 08:13:26   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
The Nikon 200-500mm lens max aperture is f/5.6, so you may lose AF.

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Aug 7, 2017 08:57:12   #
Dr J Loc: NE Florida
 
I read a comment that AF still works (in their experience) but certainly something to consider. Thank you!

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Aug 7, 2017 09:32:19   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Mac wrote:
The Nikon 200-500mm lens max aperture is f/5.6, so you may lose AF.


No, the D500 maintains focus at F8.

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Aug 7, 2017 09:34:07   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Dr J wrote:
Hello Hoggers,
With my Nikon D500 and their 200-500 for wildlife photography I am very pleased - great combo in my experience! I am considering adding the Nikon TC-14lll tele. I heard comments from a few not happy (loss of sharpness etc) when tele used with an APS-C/crop sensor camera. I know I will lose one stop of light and it will make camera stability more critical and will have to fine tune the tele and lens as a unit.
Anyone with experience and advice with this set-up would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Dennis
Hello Hoggers, br With my Nikon D500 and their 200... (show quote)


It will work perfectly, but the resulting F8 does make AF slower in lower light. No significant resolution loss either.

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Aug 7, 2017 09:41:49   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
I use that lens/converter combo on a D7100 with no problems at all. It focus quickly in decent light and I cannot detect a difference in IQ.

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Aug 7, 2017 09:57:33   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Dr J wrote:
Hello Hoggers,
With my Nikon D500 and their 200-500 for wildlife photography I am very pleased - great combo in my experience! I am considering adding the Nikon TC-14lll tele. I heard comments from a few not happy (loss of sharpness etc) when tele used with an APS-C/crop sensor camera. I know I will lose one stop of light and it will make camera stability more critical and will have to fine tune the tele and lens as a unit.
Anyone with experience and advice with this set-up would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Dennis
Hello Hoggers, br With my Nikon D500 and their 200... (show quote)


This article covers the 200-500 use with TCs.

https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-200-500mm-f5-6e-vr

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Aug 8, 2017 05:56:24   #
Revet Loc: Fairview Park, Ohio
 
I use the d500 with the Sigma 150-600C and 1.4 TC and AF works great, even in early morning light I have found.

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Aug 8, 2017 09:44:01   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
I use that lens/converter combo on a D7100 with no problems at all. It focus quickly in decent light and I cannot detect a difference in IQ.


wrong quote

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Aug 8, 2017 09:46:18   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
MT Shooter wrote:
It will work perfectly, but the resulting F8 does make AF slower in lower light. No significant resolution loss either.



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Aug 8, 2017 09:50:03   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Dr J wrote:
Hello Hoggers,
With my Nikon D500 and their 200-500 for wildlife photography I am very pleased - great combo in my experience! I am considering adding the Nikon TC-14lll tele. I heard comments from a few not happy (loss of sharpness etc) when tele used with an APS-C/crop sensor camera. I know I will lose one stop of light and it will make camera stability more critical and will have to fine tune the tele and lens as a unit.
Anyone with experience and advice with this set-up would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Dennis
Hello Hoggers, br With my Nikon D500 and their 200... (show quote)


You have a reach of 750 mm without the tele converter. That's all you should really need.

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Aug 8, 2017 10:44:33   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
You have a reach of 750 mm without the tele converter. That's all you should really need.





IF you do not like the TC, just crop and use pixel enlargement ....

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Aug 8, 2017 11:59:20   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
billnikon wrote:
You have a reach of 750 mm without the tele converter. That's all you should really need.


Speaking from my experience shooting mostly birds and wildlife, I can tell you that there are often times when even the 35mm equivalent of 900mm is NOT enough. I shoot birds and wildlife with a Tamron 150-600 mounted on my Nikon D7200. It is rarely possible to "zoom with your feet" when your subjects are birds and various animals.

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Aug 8, 2017 12:34:34   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
Couldn't one tell where the D500 would lose autofocus with a 1.4 TC by stopping down 1 or 2 stops without the TC to see if it still autofocuses? Say shoot normal light stopped down to f8, f11, f16, etc. It's the light reaching the autofocus sensor rather than the focal length of the lens combo which determines autofocusability. My D500 keeps autofocus just fine clear to f22 (although I rarely shoot that way) using 2.8 300mm Nikon prime, sometimes with a 2x TC. However, I don't use the 2x very much either because I'd rather keep the sharpness of the native 300mm and the D500 and D810 sensors have such good resolution that even bird/wildlife images blown up full frame on a 27" monitor remain sharp.

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Aug 8, 2017 12:40:04   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
CaptainBobBrown wrote:
Couldn't one tell where the D500 would lose autofocus with a 1.4 TC by stopping down 1 or 2 stops without the TC to see if it still autofocuses? Say shoot normal light stopped down to f8, f11, f16, etc. It's the light reaching the autofocus sensor rather than the focal length of the lens combo which determines autofocusability. My D500 keeps autofocus just fine clear to f22 (although I rarely shoot that way) using 2.8 300mm Nikon prime, sometimes with a 2x TC. However, I don't use the 2x very much either because I'd rather keep the sharpness of the native 300mm and the D500 and D810 sensors have such good resolution that even bird/wildlife images blown up full frame on a 27" monitor remain sharp.
Couldn't one tell where the D500 would lose autofo... (show quote)


Clearly you do not understand how AF systems work, particularly Nikons.
AF needs maximum available light and some sensors are limited in what light they can AF at. All Nikon lenses default to maximum aperture when mounted. The Nikon 200-500mm lens has a maximum aperture of F5.6. ANY camera will AF at F5.6. Adding a 1.4X TC to the lens costs you 1 stop of light while adding 40% more magnification making the subject lens a 280mm to 700mm F8 lens. Entry level cameras cannon AF with a maximum aperture of F8, Nikons semi-pro and pro models can do so. It makes no difference what aperture you select to shoot at, the lens is always wide open until you depress the shutter button, then the camera will stop down the lens to that selected aperture, cycle the shutter, and return the lens to its maximum aperture in preparation of the next shot.
A 2X TC would make this lens a 400mm to 1000mm F11 lens, and it would not AF on any body. The D500 will TRY to AF the lens at that aperture, but cannot readily or accurately do so.
I hope this helps your understanding.

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