well well, u apparently are the man! thanks so much for the link.
rmalarz wrote:
I finally read this book, more out of curiosity. Lots of instruction regarding knob twiddling, but he never touched on the foundation of exposure.
--Bob
He avoided the subject because he was afraid that his readers wouldn't understand. The one who didn't avoid the subject was Ansel Adams and many readers were turned away because of that.
That seems disingenuous to author a book, make money from the sales, and avoid the foundations of exposure.
--Bob
BebuLamar wrote:
He avoided the subject because he was afraid that his readers wouldn't understand. The one who didn't avoid the subject was Ansel Adams and many readers were turned away because of that.
rmalarz wrote:
That seems disingenuous to author a book, make money from the sales, and avoid the foundations of exposure.
--Bob
That is why although the book is highly recommended by many UHH's. I can't recommend it.
rmalarz wrote:
That seems disingenuous to author a book, make money from the sales, and avoid the foundations of exposure.
--Bob
"disingenuous" ! I didn't understand the word until I looked it up. Well yeah I agree. He knows a lot but simply avoids talking about the foundations of exposure thus he could make more money that way.
BebuLamar wrote:
In fact he talked very little about physics so he really can't change them. I think the reason he changed the terms because so many people including myself said that ISO isn't exposure so the term "Exposure Triangle" is flawed. But that aside I do find his book doesn't teach on how to actually determine exposure. He emphasized on how to choose between the combinations that yield the same exposure. The total amount of how one goes about determining exposure is about a couple of pages in the whole book. He avoided the difficult part of exposure.
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So true! He walks through a useful exercise, but it is only a small part of the overall necessary understanding. You can't ignore light — volume, specularity, ratio, shadow edge acuteness... so much to learn.
cjc2
Loc: Hellertown PA
IMHO, all of Bryan's books are excellent and worth the price. Is the upgrade worth it? That's up to you. In 5 years, lots of things have changed regarding the control of exposure, so having an updated book is of some value. The concepts have not changed and the exposure triangle is a valuable concept, especially for newbies. I have BOTH version 3 and 4, perhaps even a previous version. Every time I read the book, I either learn something new or remember something I forgot. That's a good idea about donating to the local library! Best of luck.
I have decided to not invest in the fourth edition.
I clicked on the link and started to fill out the blanks. Got to where they wanted my credit card #. Stated card would not be charged. If it was not to be charged than why do you want it. Did not go any further. Maybe I am not trusting enough???
Don
[quote=PAR4DCR]I clicked on the link and started to fill out the blanks. Got to where they wanted my credit card #. Stated card would not be charged. If it was not to be charged than why do you want it. Did not go any further. Maybe I am not trusting enough???
No, I would consider you smart.
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder how he could have three editions, let alone four. Has something changed in the
exposure triangle? I got mine in 2012, so I supposed everything has changed since then.
Turns out the exposure triangle is really a trapezoid. You have to buy the book to find out why.
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I never read the third ed, but am reading the 4th. It's excellent! From previous posts to UHH about not shooting automatic, I've used the book to learn more about using aperture priority. I've been using aperture priority for the last two weeks and feel much more comfortable with that mode because of the book.
In his Into, Bryan mentions 4th ed changes - all now photos, and "two additional and invaluable subjects that have much to do with award-winning exposures: an expanded section on the ease and joy of shooting with electronic flash and shooting star trails, and a section on the use of flashlights as another tool for extremely creative in-camera exposure options."
It's actually more of a balance beam scale.
--Bob
Bill_de wrote:
Turns out the exposure triangle is really a trapezoid. You have to buy the book to find out why.
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I was just looking on Amazon the other day. I believe the 4th ed description there lists the additional info. I decided the 3rd was enough for me, for now. The additional stuff is about specific circumstances (flash, etc).
rmalarz wrote:
It's actually more of a balance beam scale.
--Bob
It is but it needs three arms and three dishes.
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