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Aug 2, 2017 17:50:54   #
Kuzano
 
There is a fellow name on eBay... user ID... Nikon_Coolscan, if I recall. He services, repairs and sells Nikon dedicated film scanners... both slide and strip. His prices are good. He also knows the hack for using the XP Nikon drivers. The Vuescan is a simpler solution.

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Aug 2, 2017 17:58:16   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Kuzano wrote:
There is a fellow name on eBay... user ID... Nikon_Coolscan, if I recall. He services, repairs and sells Nikon dedicated film scanners... both slide and strip. His prices are good. He also knows the hack for using the XP Nikon drivers. The Vuescan is a simpler solution.

A link to his profile...

http://www.ebay.com/usr/nikon_coolscan?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

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Aug 2, 2017 18:47:40   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
tonybear wrote:
HHoggers, I had to close out my old e-mail address, and reapply with my G-mail address. Now I can hopefully catch up on discussions I've missed for the past couple of months. In reacquainting myself with the group, I'd like to mention I was the Technical Editor for Digital Photographer and Pro Digital Imaging, two of the national print magazines for digital photographers in the last decade. Alas, sadly gone due to the destruction by the Internet. But that's in the past- I read with great eagerness all that's happening today in the digital photography consumer/prosumer marketeplace and I appreciate the HH's valued experience.
I've also embarked on a huge project to digitally scan selective portions of my 35mm slide archive to my computer for inclusion in my Life Memoir. I'm the kind of guy who likes to repurpose equipment for practical uses. As a result, I've obtained a classic 35mm film scanner, the Canoscan 4000, and I'm readying it for my scanning project. The main issues are the CanoScan software was used when Windows XP was the reigning PC operating system. I now use Windows 7 Pro. I know that's still old, but it's what I've got.
So my question to HH readers is what's the best solution to get Windows XP OS to function on my Windows 7 computer, so I can get the scanning software to work? I appreciate any and all responses.
Regards,
Tony Gomez
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Can you run it in Windows compatibility mode? When I was still at Lifetouch, we were running some FoxPro 2.6 databases built in the mid-1990s. Compatibility mode in Win7 Pro seemed to work pretty well. We used it at Herff Jones, too, to run our proprietary databases built in Visual Basic and Access.

If you have a Mac, you can install Parallels Desktop and WinXP and run the software natively. Just don't connect WinXP to the Internet!

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Aug 2, 2017 18:49:59   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Another way to digitize old slides and transparencies and negatives is to photograph them with a macro lens. If you ever used a Bowens Illumitran, back in the 1980s, you know what I'm talking about. No reason a dSLR or mirrorless camera can't do that.

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Aug 2, 2017 19:14:03   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
If you have an FX format DSLR, one of the old slide/ negative duplicators will work too. The main issue will be the touch up of the dust et al.

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Aug 2, 2017 19:23:28   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
If you have an FX format DSLR, one of the old slide/ negative duplicators will work too. The main issue will be the touch up of the dust et al.


Doesn't have to be FX. I use my LUMIX GH4 with 30mm macro lens.

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Aug 2, 2017 19:27:40   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
tonybear wrote:
HHoggers, I had to close out my old e-mail address, and reapply with my G-mail address. Now I can hopefully catch up on discussions I've missed for the past couple of months. In reacquainting myself with the group, I'd like to mention I was the Technical Editor for Digital Photographer and Pro Digital Imaging, two of the national print magazines for digital photographers in the last decade. Alas, sadly gone due to the destruction by the Internet. But that's in the past- I read with great eagerness all that's happening today in the digital photography consumer/prosumer marketeplace and I appreciate the HH's valued experience.
I've also embarked on a huge project to digitally scan selective portions of my 35mm slide archive to my computer for inclusion in my Life Memoir. I'm the kind of guy who likes to repurpose equipment for practical uses. As a result, I've obtained a classic 35mm film scanner, the Canoscan 4000, and I'm readying it for my scanning project. The main issues are the CanoScan software was used when Windows XP was the reigning PC operating system. I now use Windows 7 Pro. I know that's still old, but it's what I've got.
So my question to HH readers is what's the best solution to get Windows XP OS to function on my Windows 7 computer, so I can get the scanning software to work? I appreciate any and all responses.
Regards,
Tony Gomez
HHoggers, I had to close out my old e-mail address... (show quote)


I also use a Canoscan FS4000US film scanner and there is not much hope of using the Canon software, but then the Canon software is wholly inadequate. I use Vuescan Pro and it is the perfect compliment to the FS4000. I scanned all my slides, from my Army tour overseas in the 1960s, a few times. Over the years you learn more about scanning and you realize the mistakes you have made, so I'm doing them all again. I have learned more about Vuescan and hopefully am approaching it the right way now. The first thing is after an upgrade a few years ago Vuescan will now process your scan as a DNG file. What an improvement! Also, if you set Input>Bits per Pixel to "Auto", Vuescan will scan at the maximum capability of the scanner being used! I also set Scan Resolution at 4000dpi and I am generating DNG files at 110mb. Where I screwed up in the past was neglecting to go to the COLOR Tab and setting Color Balance at "Auto." Another mistake I made on the last go-round was to change the Color Space to "Adobe RGB." That blew out my scans to the point that ACR had a tough time bringing them back into acceptable pictures.

I think you made a wise decision to pick up an old FS4000US. I bought a second one on eBay last year for a price that was worth it just to get the extra set of slide and film carriers. Of course we would all love to have a Nikon film scanner but the prices are still a bit high.

Vuescan has a learning curve but once you are familiar with it, it will work with any scanner. I use it every day with my Epson V700 to scan documents as pdf files. You can save unlimited setups, whether it is to a certain scanner, where to send the scan, what values you have set, what film type you are scanning, and on and on. For $70 it has been a bargain and is one of the most-used programs I have.

Another thing about scanning to DNG: I have the folder open in Adobe Bridge. When a scan appears in Bridge I can type the description, title, keywords, etc. I can open it in ACR and fiddle with it as much as I want, all while the next slide is being scanned.

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Aug 2, 2017 19:27:45   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
burkphoto wrote:
Doesn't have to be FX. I use my LUMIX GH4 with 30mm macro lens.

If the sensor is a crop sensor, the slide duplicator won't capture the entire frame of the slide or negative unless there is a way to adjust the angle of view of the duplicator. Now if you are using a macro lens with a light board then that's another story.

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Aug 2, 2017 19:30:19   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
bw79st wrote:
I also use a Canoscan FS4000US film scanner and there is not much hope of using the Canon software, but then the Canon software is wholly inadequate. I use Vuescan Pro and it is the perfect compliment to the FS4000. I scanned all my slides, from my Army tour overseas in the 1960s, a few times. Over the years you learn more about scanning and you realize the mistakes you have made, so I'm doing them all again. I have learned more about Vuescan and hopefully am approaching it the right way now. The first thing is after an upgrade a few years ago Vuescan will now process your scan as a DNG file. What an improvement! Also, if you set Input>Bits per Pixel to "Auto", Vuescan will scan at the maximum capability of the scanner being used! I also set Scan Resolution at 4000dpi and I am generating DNG files at 110mb. Where I screwed up in the past was neglecting to go to the COLOR Tab and setting Color Balance at "Auto." Another mistake I made on the last go-round was to change the Color Space to "Adobe RGB." That blew out my scans to the point that ACR had a tough time bringing them back into acceptable pictures.

I think you mad a wise decision to pick up an old FS4000US. I bought a second one on eBay last year for a price that was worth it just to get the extra set of slide and film carriers. Of course we would all love to have a Nikon film scanner but the prices are still a bit high.

Vuescan has a learning curve but once you are familiar with it, it will work with any scanner. I use it every day with my Epson V700 to scan documents as pdf files. You can save unlimited setups, whether it is to a certain scanner, where to send the scan, what values you have set, what film type you are scanning, and on and on. For $70 it has been a bargain and is one of the most-used programs I have.

Another thing about scanning to DNG: I have the folder open in Adobe Bridge. When a scan appears in Bridge I can type the description, title, keywords, etc. I can open it in ACR and fiddle with it as much as I want, all while the next slide is being scanned.
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Question, does Viewscan incorporate Digital Ice software ?

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Aug 2, 2017 19:42:53   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Question, does Viewscan incorporate Digital Ice software ?


It has infrared cleaning in three strengths, Light, Medium, Heavy, plus of course None. I use Medium at most, as Heavy could degrade the image a bit. It's on the "Filter" tab.

I find it works quite well for removing those annoying black spots that physical cleaning just can't seem to get rid of. I'm not sure but it may be scanner specific, as a number of features are.

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Aug 2, 2017 20:37:58   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
If the sensor is a crop sensor, the slide duplicator won't capture the entire frame of the slide or negative unless there is a way to adjust the angle of view of the duplicator. Now if you are using a macro lens with a light board then that's another story.


I can do 1:1 at Micro 4/3 sensor size, roughly 1/4 of a 35mm slide.

My old Bowens Illumitran could copy 1/8 of a slide to full frame film. It had a long bellows and used a 60mm enlarger lens.

Slide duplicators with fixed length tubes are quick, but expensive and limiting.

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Aug 3, 2017 10:29:43   #
lhbpe Loc: North Carolina
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
Lots of folks use VueScan. It seems to work with any OS, any RAW file, any output, and several computers. It has frequent updates to keep up with new camera models. I've never been stumped by it; it just works.
https://www.hamrick.com/


I bought a new computer with Windows 10. As I have two scanners that worked very well with Windows XP, I downloaded VueScan so I could use the scanners with Windows 10. I found out in using VueScan that I also needed drivers for my two scanners for Windows 10. Of course, that was the problem to start with, no drivers for Windows 10 for the two scanners. VueScan was no help unless I had the drivers, which don't exist. So understand that VueScan may not be the solution you are looking for.

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Aug 3, 2017 10:38:06   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
lhbpe wrote:
I bought a new computer with Windows 10. As I have two scanners that worked very well with Windows XP, I downloaded VueScan so I could use the scanners with Windows 10. I found out in using VueScan that I also needed drivers for my two scanners for Windows 10. Of course, that was the problem to start with, no drivers for Windows 10 for the two scanners. VueScan was no help unless I had the drivers, which don't exist. So understand that VueScan may not be the solution you are looking for.

Have you tried this yet?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15078/windows-make-older-programs-compatible

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Aug 3, 2017 11:47:06   #
BebuLamar
 
I have a Konica Minolta Duan Scan IV and it works only in Windows XP. Setting compatible mode etc.. in Windows 10 won't help. I tried VueScan and didn't like it. When I run Windows 7 I just install XP mode for Windows 7 and it works fine. Now that I upgraded to Windows 10 I simply install Windows XP on different hard drive and swap the hard drive when I want to scan.

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Aug 3, 2017 12:44:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have a Konica Minolta Duan Scan IV and it works only in Windows XP. Setting compatible mode etc.. in Windows 10 won't help. I tried VueScan and didn't like it. When I run Windows 7 I just install XP mode for Windows 7 and it works fine. Now that I upgraded to Windows 10 I simply install Windows XP on different hard drive and swap the hard drive when I want to scan.


That's always a good strategy. Macs can start up from USB 3, Thunderbolt, and FireWire external hard drives. I use all three types to start up different versions of Mac OS and OS X, so I can run older and newer software.

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