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Jul 28, 2017 06:15:11   #
Bobgood1 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
I think that the " More Refined," equipment can give you an edge, BUT, I agree with " Mac," on good technique vs equipment.

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Jul 28, 2017 07:27:52   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Also consider the public does not have the same experience that armature or professional photographers have and do not look for the same things they would be just as happy with a smart phone photo.

joer wrote:
I watched a Matt Grainger video where he took two identical images of the same model; one with a $10,000 camera and one with a $100 camera. Printed both and asked random non-photographers to choose which they liked better. The $100 camera image was chosen most often. The winner was a beat up D200 w/50mm lens. The looser was a Nikon D5 with an Otis lens.

Something to ponder...

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Jul 28, 2017 07:42:10   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
joer wrote:
I watched a Matt Grainger video where he took two identical images of the same model; one with a $10,000 camera and one with a $100 camera. Printed both and asked random non-photographers to choose which they liked better. The $100 camera image was chosen most often. The winner was a beat up D200 w/50mm lens. The looser was a Nikon D5 with an Otis lens.

Something to ponder...


As I have said over and over and over again on this site, it is never about the equipment, it is the photographer that makes the difference. But we continue to beat each other up over equipment choices.

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Jul 28, 2017 08:38:20   #
cthahn
 
Just think. A professional photographer can take a quality picture with an older camera. New amateur photographers must have a new camera as an older camera wont take good pictures. It goes back to the photographer takes the picture, not the camera. Makes me feel good. My D200 and D100 are still OK.

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Jul 28, 2017 08:47:42   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
joer wrote:
I watched a Matt Grainger video where he took two identical images of the same model; one with a $10,000 camera and one with a $100 camera. Printed both and asked random non-photographers to choose which they liked better. The $100 camera image was chosen most often. The winner was a beat up D200 w/50mm lens. The looser was a Nikon D5 with an Otis lens.

Something to ponder...


Interesting

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Jul 28, 2017 08:58:31   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
You know, I think the camera and the photographer both are involved in the taking of a picture. It is sort of like dating and marriage. The photographer has to find the camera that shares their ideas and goals to form a long lasting relationship. It may take years and trying different equipment, but once the bond is formed, it is hard to break them apart.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:20:50   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
dsmeltz wrote:
You know, I think the camera and the photographer both are involved in the taking of a picture. It is sort of like dating and marriage. The photographer has to find the camera that shares their ideas and goals to form a long lasting relationship. It may take years and trying different equipment, but once the bond is formed, it is hard to break them apart.


Well, I had no problem breaking my bonds with my Hasselbald equipment. And it's a good thing I did. Today they would make a great paper weight, not worth much more than that, but, I sold as soon as I saw where digital was going.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:27:18   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
billnikon wrote:
Well, I had no problem breaking my bonds with my Hasselbald equipment. And it's a good thing I did. Today they would make a great paper weight, not worth much more than that, but, I sold as soon as I saw where digital was going.


Ahhhh. The seven year itch? Midlife crisis? The younger prettier model?

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Jul 28, 2017 09:31:18   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
joer wrote:
I watched a Matt Grainger video where he took two identical images of the same model; one with a $10,000 camera and one with a $100 camera. Printed both and asked random non-photographers to choose which they liked better. The $100 camera image was chosen most often. The winner was a beat up D200 w/50mm lens. The looser was a Nikon D5 with an Otis lens.

Something to ponder...


I have a friend who uses a Nikon D-40 and she takes some great pictures. A D-40 uses 6mp. last I heard Nation Geographic requires only 6mp to publish.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:41:17   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I still have mine and still use it and the 4 lenses. But then, I use Hasselblad and not Hasselbald. So, maybe there is a difference.
--Bob
billnikon wrote:
Well, I had no problem breaking my bonds with my Hasselbald equipment. And it's a good thing I did. Today they would make a great paper weight, not worth much more than that, but, I sold as soon as I saw where digital was going.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:46:56   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Artistic vision through your brain/eye comes first and then the camera/lens for the capture. If you don't have the former, then the latter won't make much difference.

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Jul 28, 2017 10:19:24   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
I have a good friend who is one of top chefs in Boston. One night he came to my house to cook a meal for 8 people as thing for a charity auction. Prior to he gave me a shopping list told me to get the food he needed. I asked him do you want me to get this stuff from any special store? He said no any store is fine. On the list he had things like 4 lbs of beef. I asked any special cuts he said no. Anything on sale will do. For the other things I asked any special brands? He said no again what ever is in sale is fine. When he showed up he came with nothing other than 1 knife. I asked no pans? Nope! But my pans and cookware are crappy! He simply said "It's not the hammer it's the carpenter...except for my trusty knife" with a chuckle He proceeded to create the most amazing meal that any of us had ever had. With the exact same ingredients I use all the time myself. How could he cook the same things I cook but so much better? He let me in on his little secret. He said "you just haven't practiced this stuff as much as I have". It's not the hammer it's the carpenter. It's not the camera or lens it's the photographer Lesson learned that night. Better equipment does not make me a better photographer practice does.

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Jul 28, 2017 10:50:51   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Many times I have said in this forum that an old camera can perform as well as a new one with all of its modern technologies. Many times I have said that when we do our part the lens does its part.
The D200 has been a good camera. Same colors as the Dx2 which were first generation Nikon colors. Those were pastel colors similar to those of Kodachrome. I used the D200 once but did not keep it because I went with the D300, a more advanced camera except for the colors. The colors of the D200 in my humble opinion were superior.
I am not surprised at the results.

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Jul 28, 2017 10:51:31   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Jaackil wrote:
I have a good friend who is one of top chefs in Boston. One night he came to my house to cook a meal for 8 people as thing for a charity auction. Prior to he gave me a shopping list told me to get the food he needed. I asked him do you want me to get this stuff from any special store? He said no any store is fine. On the list he had things like 4 lbs of beef. I asked any special cuts he said no. Anything on sale will do. For the other things I asked any special brands? He said no again what ever is in sale is fine. When he showed up he came with nothing other than 1 knife. I asked no pans? Nope! But my pans and cookware are crappy! He simply said "It's not the hammer it's the carpenter...except for my trusty knife" with a chuckle He proceeded to create the most amazing meal that any of us had ever had. With the exact same ingredients I use all the time myself. How could he cook the same things I cook but so much better? He let me in on his little secret. He said "you just haven't practiced this stuff as much as I have". It's not the hammer it's the carpenter. It's not the camera or lens it's the photographer Lesson learned that night. Better equipment does not make me a better photographer practice does.
I have a good friend who is one of top chefs in Bo... (show quote)


But.... he needed his knife.

Just say'n

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Jul 28, 2017 10:52:49   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
You do mean the D2X not the DX2 I hope, I sill own mine .

camerapapi wrote:
Many times I have said in this forum that an old camera can perform as well as a new one with all of its modern technologies. Many times I have said that when we do our part the lens does its part.
The D200 has been a good camera. Same colors as the Dx2 which were first generation Nikon colors. Those were pastel colors similar to those of Kodachrome. I used the D200 once but did not keep it because I went with the D300, a more advanced camera except for the colors. The colors of the D200 in my humble opinion were superior.
I am not surprised at the results.
Many times I have said in this forum that an old c... (show quote)

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