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Jul 27, 2017 00:59:10   #
Neilhunt
 
I really enjoy the Zeiss Batis 18mm on my Sony (full frame) for landscapes.

Even if that recommendation isn't helpful to the OP, this observation might be: the perspective distortion from an UW is often objectionable on a landscape.

I have learned always to point the camera horizontal (horizon across the midline), which makes verticals vertical, instead of tilting inward or outward. However, I usually like the aesthetic of horizons on the thirds (either one third sky, or two-thirds sky - if the clouds are cool), and to achieve this, I crop in post.

The alternative is perspective correction in LR, which still requires shooting with the post processing in mind, since fixing tilting vertical lines narrows the top or bottom of the shot, and alters the height of the picture.

Make a bunch of practice shots before your big trip, and be sure to examine the results on a computer while you can try again.

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Jul 27, 2017 01:34:52   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Mac wrote:
I'd say take the 24-120mm. What's the 18-35mm going to get you on an FX camera that the 24-120mm won't?


Quite a bit more, actually!

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Jul 27, 2017 07:32:18   #
DRG777 Loc: Metro Detroit
 
For most landscapes I use a 16-35 on a full frame.

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Jul 27, 2017 13:01:20   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
I would say the Nikon 16-35 F4 WA zoom.

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Jul 27, 2017 19:32:08   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
billnikon wrote:
For you cropped sensor camera there is the very sharp Nikon 10-24 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/619515-REG/Nikon_2181_10_24mm_f_3_5_4_5G_ED_AF_S.html?sts=pi or the new and less expensive 10-20 f4.5 and it is getting good reviews https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1341603-REG/nikon_20067_af_p_dx_nikkor_10_20mm.html?sts=pi.

For your full frame my favorite wide is the 16-35 F4, I get beautiful 20X30 prints, https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675838-USA/Nikon_2182_AF_S_Nikkor_16_35mm_f_4G.html?sts=pi
For you cropped sensor camera there is the very sh... (show quote)


I would go the 10-20mm. Great price and an interesting review that praises this lens. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/10-20mm.htm
I have the Canon equivalent 10-18mm and love it for the type of use you are wanting to put it to.

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Jul 28, 2017 08:18:54   #
lastshotmike
 
We made a trip last year to the 5 parks in southern Utah, Monument Valley and the Grand Canyon. I have a D7200 and brought my Nikon 10-24 and 16-85 thinking as you have that the wide angle 10-24 would be the winner. The 16-85 is what I used almost all the time. The 10-24 was too limiting. I think your 24-120 is the right lens on your full frame. You need the range to get the shots. My opinion.

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Jul 28, 2017 18:50:31   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rehess wrote:
Pano is a completely different question. It is a big step resulting in an image that may be awkward to deal with {not many standard picture frames, for example}. An UWA lens is a different solution to deal with a different situation - a small step to provide slightly more width, creating an image of standard proportions but providing more comfortable framing.

added: when I switched from Canon to Pentax, my Sigma 10-20mm lens was the one I really missed, so I was happy to discover that it comes in K-mount also. I don't use it very often, but when I do use it, I'm always happy to have it in my bag so I can take another step or two into a scene {or avoid having to take several steps out of it}
Pano is a completely different question. It is a b... (show quote)


Actually, when you use an ultra wide lens for landscape, the tendency is to shoot sweepingly wide views, and you end up cropping foreground and/or sky to get a "closer" view and often a more meaningful, less "wide angle looking" composition. You still have the dilemma of odd-sized mat windows and picture frames, but most framing shops will accommodate pano shots. Bay Photo offers the following pano style sizes:

3.5x10
4x10
4x12
5x10
5x14
5x15
5x20
5x30
and so on, all the way up to a 30x120.

And they offer custom sizes as well.

Frame Destination offers the following frame sizes and mats for panos:

8" x 16"
8" x 24"
10" x 20"
11" x 17"and 12" x 18"
12" x 24"
12" x 20"
12" x 28"
12" x 36"and 13" x 38"
16" x 26"and 20" x 30"
16" x 36"
18" x 30"and 20" x 32"
16" x 40"
24" x 40"

And the also offer custom sizing.

I had a Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 - it was an exceptionally good lens. But once the novelty wore off, it got used only occasionally, usually in close quarters. Never liked it much for sweeping landscapes.

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Jul 29, 2017 05:46:39   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Gene51 wrote:
Actually, when you use an ultra wide lens for landscape, the tendency is to shoot sweepingly wide views, and you end up cropping foreground and/or sky to get a "closer" view and often a more meaningful, less "wide angle looking" composition. You still have the dilemma of odd-sized mat windows and picture frames, but most framing shops will accommodate pano shots. Bay Photo offers the following pano style sizes:

3.5x10
4x10
4x12
5x10
5x14
5x15
5x20
5x30
and so on, all the way up to a 30x120.

And they offer custom sizes as well.

Frame Destination offers the following frame sizes and mats for panos:

8" x 16"
8" x 24"
10" x 20"
11" x 17"and 12" x 18"
12" x 24"
12" x 20"
12" x 28"
12" x 36"and 13" x 38"
16" x 26"and 20" x 30"
16" x 36"
18" x 30"and 20" x 32"
16" x 40"
24" x 40"

And the also offer custom sizing.

I had a Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 - it was an exceptionally good lens. But once the novelty wore off, it got used only occasionally, usually in close quarters. Never liked it much for sweeping landscapes.
Actually, when you use an ultra wide lens for land... (show quote)


This is where there is absolute confusion on the WA lens. It is not a panacea for sweeping wide landscapes as the objects are rendered infinitely small. It does come in great if you know how to use it and in places like Antelope Canyon, close-ups of a child on the rim of the Grand Canyon and innumerable situations where the WA shines you can't beat the thousands of great shots that it can allow you to do. As with most lenses beyond 28-100 mm range and especially the WA range, though it requires a bit of thought to use besides just point and mindlesly shoot.

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