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Jul 23, 2017 18:09:21   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Thanks
blackest wrote:
It should be possible, although i'v seen core2 duo's which are 64bit stuck in 32bit mode due to the bios. Since it's a Dell if you can get the exact model go to crucial.com and see what they say is the maximum ram it can take. If it's more than 4 GB then there should be no issue upgrading it to a 64bit version of the operating system it is running. where you might come unstuck is with the graphics card it might need upgrading to something newer if there isn't a 64 bit driver for it.

Being a Dell it maybe using integrated graphics and you will probably want a modest upgrade to something better.

Actually having the model name and number a google of that and 64 bit should let you know if there are any snags. Like most things in life you won't be the first :) especially at that age.
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Jul 24, 2017 12:20:34   #
Quantus5
 
Mac wrote:
MacBook Pro.


Expensive and lame.

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Jul 24, 2017 13:12:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Quantus5 wrote:
Expensive and lame.


Not really.

https://www.jamf.com/blog/debate-over-ibm-confirms-that-macs-are-535-less-expensive-than-pcs/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-own-than-windows-2016-10

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Jul 24, 2017 13:16:54   #
Quantus5
 
burkphoto wrote:
Not really.

https://www.jamf.com/blog/debate-over-ibm-confirms-that-macs-are-535-less-expensive-than-pcs/


That blog is really just an advertisement for JAMF.

IMHO Apple had a good laptop with the MacBook Air -- but then they dropped support for it and then stopped producing it. Just my opinion, but Apple has lost its way when it comes to laptops.

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Jul 24, 2017 13:22:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
They will only have lost their way when they stop making Mac OS.

It is never about just the pretty hardware. It is always the entire experience.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-own-than-windows-2016-10

Watch the linked video... start at 4':10".

By the way, the Air is one of the few Apple products that power users don't like. They are fine for taking simple office tasks onto a plane or to a meeting. But they're weak for photo/video work.

The newest 13" MBPs are about the same size, but much more powerful.

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Jul 24, 2017 13:26:27   #
Quantus5
 
burkphoto wrote:
They will only have lost their way when they stop making Mac OS.

It is never about just the pretty hardware. It is always the entire experience.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-own-than-windows-2016-10


Glad I never bought the Trashintosh. Just saying...

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Jul 24, 2017 13:44:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Quantus5 wrote:
Glad I never bought the Trashintosh. Just saying...


Since 1986, I've had both a PC and a Mac at all times. I can say that Win 10 is nice. I even *liked* Win 2000, XP SP3, and 7. The rest were unpleasant experiences, to be kind.

Mac OS, and Mac OS X before the name change, is much more intuitive. The integration with iCloud and iPhone/iPad is amazing. Running Windows and Linux and UNIX apps simultaneously (with a little help from Parallels Desktop) is convenient.

Yes, you can build a cheaper and "more powerful" PC. But you still don't have the Mac experience.

The only way to understand it is to live it. It is a gestalt.

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Jul 24, 2017 14:01:50   #
Quantus5
 
We can agree to disagree. We're really just going to go down a rat hole of your subjective opinion against my subjective opinion.

I much prefer Windows 10.

Enjoy you MacBook Pro!!

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Jul 24, 2017 14:30:21   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
burkphoto wrote:
Since 1986, I've had both a PC and a Mac at all times. I can say that Win 10 is nice. I even *liked* Win 2000, XP SP3, and 7. The rest were unpleasant experiences, to be kind.

Mac OS, and Mac OS X before the name change, is much more intuitive. The integration with iCloud and iPhone/iPad is amazing. Running Windows and Linux and UNIX apps simultaneously (with a little help from Parallels Desktop) is convenient.

Yes, you can build a cheaper and "more powerful" PC. But you still don't have the Mac experience.

The only way to understand it is to live it. It is a gestalt.
Since 1986, I've had both a PC and a Mac at all ti... (show quote)


Tried one once, had to use it because that is what was there, didn't like it. It wasn't intuitive for me!
To me a "Mac" experience involves a Quarter Pounder with Cheese or a Filet of Fish.

Note, majority of "power users" esp gamers use custom or semi custom PCs. My PC is a semi custom gamer I bought from iBuyPower to edit photos etc in late 2011. A friend has a Mac desktop less than a year old, cost more than my gamer did and is about the same power as my now 6 year old tech. The only changes I have made (3 years ago) were a bigger monitor and a bigger SSD for my C drive. A few months ago I added a third (larger) HDD drive just as a photo data drive.

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Jul 24, 2017 14:48:45   #
Quantus5
 
robertjerl wrote:
Tried one once, had to use it because that is what was there, didn't like it. It wasn't intuitive for me!
To me a "Mac" experience involves a Quarter Pounder with Cheese or a Filet of Fish.

Note, majority of "power users" esp gamers use custom or semi custom PCs. My PC is a semi custom gamer I bought from iBuyPower to edit photos etc in late 2011. A friend has a Mac desktop less than a year old, cost more than my gamer did and is about the same power as my now 6 year old tech. The only changes I have made (3 years ago) were a bigger monitor and a bigger SSD for my C drive. A few months ago I added a third (larger) HDD drive just as a photo data drive.
Tried one once, had to use it because that is what... (show quote)


Desktops rule!!! My home system I built myself. Thermaltake case with an Intel Core i7 processor, 16GB of ram, a Gigabyte motherboard, and an Nvidia 1080 graphics card. Super upgradeable.

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Jul 25, 2017 21:04:42   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Rickyb wrote:
Microfosoft Gone Nuts

Microfosho!

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