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Jul 5, 2017 14:34:06   #
Lukabulla
 
I've recently thought I would try my luck with submitting some photos to Photo Agency's to possibly sell .
Wow - it's been a total nightmare to try and enroll .. Even then once joined one is up against lots of ' restrictions '..

I sent in this one in a few days ago .. and a msg came back that it was Rejected because I didnt have the Building Owner's permission
to use it in a Photo ... Grrr



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Jul 5, 2017 14:44:04   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Lukabulla wrote:
I've recently thought I would try my luck with submitting some photos to Photo Agency's to possibly sell .
Wow - it's been a total nightmare to try and enroll .. Even then once joined one is up against lots of ' restrictions '..

I sent in this one in a few days ago .. and a msg came back that it was Rejected because I didnt have the Building Owner's permission
to use it in a Photo ... Grrr


I would have thought it would be rejected for being out of level. Also rejectable for no release from the statues artist.

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Jul 5, 2017 16:38:28   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Lukabulla wrote:
I've recently thought I would try my luck with submitting some photos to Photo Agency's to possibly sell .
Wow - it's been a total nightmare to try and enroll .. Even then once joined one is up against lots of ' restrictions '..

I sent in this one in a few days ago .. and a msg came back that it was Rejected because I didnt have the Building Owner's permission
to use it in a Photo ... Grrr


Thought things outside in public was free game.

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Jul 5, 2017 16:50:43   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Thought things outside in public was free game.


http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/photographers-rights-the-ultimate-guide-1320949

Some public places also have bylaws preventing commercial photography, such as in Trafalgar Square, Parliament Square and some Royal Parks. But if you're not taking photos for commercial gain or causing an obstruction, you're unlikely to be restricted.

Parliament Square being the relevant restriction to the OP.

Around 2015 there was some EU law which looked like it might be enacted in the UK which would have placed most of the UK as being restricted but I don't know if it is law or not. certainly some European countries have more restrictions than others.

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Jul 5, 2017 17:04:24   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Well them Lil whinys.

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Jul 5, 2017 17:09:03   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Lukabulla wrote:
I've recently thought I would try my luck with submitting some photos to Photo Agency's to possibly sell .
Wow - it's been a total nightmare to try and enroll .. Even then once joined one is up against lots of ' restrictions '..

I sent in this one in a few days ago .. and a msg came back that it was Rejected because I didnt have the Building Owner's permission
to use it in a Photo ... Grrr


Is that the leaning tower of Pisa, or a British Bulldog's butt?

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Jul 5, 2017 17:16:54   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Peterff wrote:
Is that the leaning tower of Pisa, or a British Bulldog's butt?


Pretty close you don't get much more of a British Bull dog than Churchill and yes thats his bronze butt :)

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Jul 6, 2017 05:57:45   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
It is my understanding that you must have a property release for any building (or statue) in a photograph as soon as money gets involved- i.e. you are trying to sell the photograph.

I heard of a photographer who was (successfully) sued for photographing a scene with a building on it. He had removed the building in Photoshop, but the owners of the property recognized their property (when they saw it used on a billboard).

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Jul 6, 2017 06:14:04   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
blackest wrote:
http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/photographers-rights-the-ultimate-guide-1320949

Some public places also have bylaws preventing commercial photography, such as in Trafalgar Square, Parliament Square and some Royal Parks. But if you're not taking photos for commercial gain or causing an obstruction, you're unlikely to be restricted.

Parliament Square being the relevant restriction to the OP.

Around 2015 there was some EU law which looked like it might be enacted in the UK which would have placed most of the UK as being restricted but I don't know if it is law or not. certainly some European countries have more restrictions than others.
http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-... (show quote)


How would that work with cities or small towns?

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Jul 6, 2017 06:44:48   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
waegwan wrote:
How would that work with cities or small towns?


I don't know how far that EU law got, and as I don't photograph commercially I have never bothered to find out. As an amateur in Ireland even if it's technically illegal to photograph anything it's hardly likely to get you in trouble. UK might be different.

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Jul 6, 2017 06:49:50   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
Concerning "shooting commercially", I've encountered a "no tripods" rule at an increasing number of
"tourist attractions" in the USA, such as parks. Their argument is "if you are using a tripod, then you are obviously a professional and you must be shooting commercially. You must be selling the photographs, but you're not sharing the income with us (the park). Therefore, no tripods allowed."

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Jul 6, 2017 06:50:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Lukabulla wrote:
I've recently thought I would try my luck with submitting some photos to Photo Agency's to possibly sell .
Wow - it's been a total nightmare to try and enroll .. Even then once joined one is up against lots of ' restrictions '..

I sent in this one in a few days ago .. and a msg came back that it was Rejected because I didnt have the Building Owner's permission
to use it in a Photo ... Grrr


Yes, stock photo companies play it safe. There have been several law suites won by sculptors against those using photographs of their works. The Post Office Department was sued over its use of a photo the Korean War sculpture on a stamp.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/20/korea-memorial-sculptor-wins-settlement-in-copyright-case-/2845143/

My wife and I arrived in London just after that statue of Churchill was put in place in 1973. I have pictures of it (prints) - somewhere. You have a nice shot there, so enjoy it.

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Jul 6, 2017 06:59:02   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
That's a good article about the Korean War Memorial.
It highlights some interesting issues:
1. A guy makes a sculpture.
2. Someone else photographs the sculpture.
3. The Post Office pays the photographer for his photograph of the sculpture (but doesn't pay the original sculptor).
4. The sculptor sues the Post Office AND the photographer, and wins.

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Jul 6, 2017 07:13:51   #
cthahn
 
If you do not like the restrictions they have, go some where else. What would you like us to do?

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Jul 6, 2017 07:51:57   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
If you want to sell images you'll need to step up your game and research what sells and what doesn't. The photo you uploaded lacks in composition, post processing, and saleability.
Lukabulla wrote:
I've recently thought I would try my luck with submitting some photos to Photo Agency's to possibly sell .
Wow - it's been a total nightmare to try and enroll .. Even then once joined one is up against lots of ' restrictions '..

I sent in this one in a few days ago .. and a msg came back that it was Rejected because I didnt have the Building Owner's permission
to use it in a Photo ... Grrr

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