"We Don't Need No Stinking Facts!"
Jul 6, 2017 04:53:37 #
MtnMan wrote:
Your type are beyond help. Fortunately you won't get to influence children's education.
Your quote is right on one point: there can be no divine feet in science. They aren't testable.
Your quote is right on one point: there can be no divine feet in science. They aren't testable.
Lol....just quoting that and not being honest about the point of it exposes your bias.
Nicely done.
Jul 6, 2017 04:54:50 #
user47602 wrote:
this is why we don't teach religion in public schools
Of course, we do; the religion of materialism/evolution.
Jul 6, 2017 08:26:20 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
Blurryeyed wrote:
LOL. So, in Florida it is now possible that our ch... (show quote)
Maybe we should put gravity to a vote. Or, whether or not the earth is a globe. Or whether or not the earth is more than 6000 years old. Can we vote on whether or not the holocaust really happened? Some things just don't bend to the will of the people. I'm not really sure what time the sun will set tonight, but what ever time it is, I'm pretty sure a vote won't change it.
Jul 6, 2017 08:32:24 #
thom w wrote:
Maybe we should put gravity to a vote. Or, whether or not the earth is a globe. Or whether or not the earth is more than 6000 years old. Can we vote on whether or not the holocaust really happened? Some things just don't bend to the will of the people. I'm not really sure what time the sun will set tonight, but what ever time it is, I'm pretty sure a vote won't change it.
Whoops!
You just conflated observable, measurable, repeatable science with fairy tales.
Things like the effect of gravity, and the orbit's and rotation of the planets, or whether our earth is a globe or some other shape are within the scope of science.
The age of the earth and everything else is a bit different. What humans deduce about the unobservable past from the observable evidence in the present is determined by their presupppsitions; whatever they are. I happen to believe the word of the only One who was there (my ultimate authority). What He says fits the evidence that we have. Others come to opposite conclusions based on their starting assumptions and ultimate authority.
The short version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP9kejRIK2A
The longer version
https://answersingenesis.org/what-is-science/two-kinds-of-science/
Jul 6, 2017 08:40:37 #
MtnMan wrote:
In science there are few facts. Science is almost all theories.
"So, what does the word "theory" mean in science?
According to the National Academies of Sciences, "some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature supported by facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena".
People who don't understand this distinction sometimes dismiss ideas saying "it's just a theory" (this is very commonly used to suggest that evolution is just speculation, for example). But, when scientists speak of the theory of gravity or the theory of evolution, they don't mean that these are random untested ideas that someone came up with after too many beers."
https://oregonstate.edu/instruction/bb317/scientifictheories.html
Jul 6, 2017 08:41:42 #
jerryc41 wrote:
"So, what does the word "theory" me... (show quote)
That's why I don't call (or try not to) Evolution a theory but an idea or fairy tale.
Jul 6, 2017 08:47:41 #
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Jul 6, 2017 08:50:18 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
Leica User wrote:
Science does not work using facts. Science uses an... (show quote)
Are cheap insults the extent of your intellectual capacity?
Never mind. I think I know the answer.
Now on with your lecture about how the scientific method works.
Jul 6, 2017 08:56:11 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
rpavich wrote:
That's why I don't call (or try not to) Evolution a theory but an idea or fairy tale.
And what is your evidence that evolution is just a fairy tale? And how does that evidence stack up against the mountains of evidence to the contrary? Scientific theories are backed by evidence and are constantly being challenged in light of new evidence. How does your hypothesis stand up to that level of scrutiny?
How would you explain antibiotic resistant bacteria? This is an evolutionary process that is happening right before our eyes.
Jul 6, 2017 08:57:42 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
rpavich wrote:
That's why I don't call (or try not to) Evolution a theory but an idea or fairy tale.
I'm not saying you aren't or anything, but who or what made you the arbiter of what is a fairy tail and what is a theory? Also, when did this happen?
Apparently not everybody agrees with you concerning the earth being a globe. Google it. As to the true "one", without debating your religion, which is rarely productive, what, other than it states it is, makes you believe that the bible is the word of God and that your God is the true God? There are plenty of people, probably as bright as you are, who don't see things as you do. I don't wish to change your mind. I do think you could give those who disagree with you a bit of respect, and I'm not talking about being polite.
Jul 6, 2017 09:05:11 #
rpavich wrote:
No such thing :)
You know you've had too many beers when you aren't able to grab and open another one.
Jul 6, 2017 09:22:46 #
Bazbo wrote:
And what is your evidence that evolution is just a fairy tale?
As I said; we all have the same evidence. The question always is: who's worldview makes sense of the available evidence?
If you want to go into details, just PM me.
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And how does that evidence stack up against the mountains of evidence to the contrary? Scientific theories are backed by evidence and are constantly being challenged in light of new evidence. How does your hypothesis stand up to that level of scrutiny?
See answer above and look at link in my previous comment about observational vs historical science.
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How would you explain antibiotic resistant bacteria? This is an evolutionary process that is happening right before our eyes.
Agree! (if by "evolutionary" you mean "change or adaptation") If you mean "this supports the idea that the universe started X billion years ago and man appeared X million / thousand years ago via the primordal slime..." or something similar, please insert your own details where necessary....then we certainly don't agree.
We agree that species change and adapt (observable science) but we don't agree that the fairy tale of evolution (molecules to man) is supported by that observation.
Jul 6, 2017 11:15:10 #
Bazbo wrote:
Are cheap insults the extent of your intellectual capacity?
Never mind. I think I know the answer.
Now on with your lecture about how the scientific method works.
Never mind. I think I know the answer.
Now on with your lecture about how the scientific method works.
Science has studied Lickem Useless for years...still baffled.
Jul 6, 2017 11:20:49 #
mwalsh wrote:
Science has studied Lickem Useless for years...still baffled.
I suspect he's a bot. His / its responses may at first appear random, but I think over time a pattern is emerging.
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