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Jun 30, 2017 09:29:37   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
It seems to be the thing to remove all of the detail from waterfalls. I prefer to see water detail and some action. How about water drops caught in mid air?

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Jun 30, 2017 09:37:59   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
RickL wrote:
It seems to be the thing to remove all of the detail from waterfalls. I prefer to see water detail and some action. How about water drops caught in mid air?


I tend to agree with you. I usually use the lowest power ND filter i have to get images of moving water. I like to see some detail of the water and show the power and energy it has.

Will

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Jun 30, 2017 09:48:05   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
RickL wrote:
It seems to be the thing to remove all of the detail from waterfalls. I prefer to see water detail and some action. How about water drops caught in mid air?


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Jun 30, 2017 09:52:36   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
Why do people complain about this instead of going out and showing us all how it's done?

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Jun 30, 2017 09:55:46   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
RickL wrote:
It seems to be the thing to remove all of the detail from waterfalls.

Hey, those pictures have a certain mystique about them - makes you wonder what’s upstream - a sewage treatment plant, someone emptying a bathtub, or a washing machine, or ... ?

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Jun 30, 2017 10:32:57   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
RickL wrote:
It seems to be the thing to remove all of the detail from waterfalls. I prefer to see water detail and some action. How about water drops caught in mid air?


Cash customers want water that resembles taffy, not real water scenes. I shot a series of photographs of water crashing into a stone jetty during a very high speed wind. People were amazed to see water as it naturally appears, not the smoothed-over versions that make it look so pathetic. Moving water fanscinates humans but lately things have evolved into water looking almost solid. In noticing photographs of the northwestern region of the USA it is obvious that running water is still water and not some flow of Howard Johnson's saltwater taffy. The rivers of that region are almost perfect for landscape photography and the water is running in the riverbed, not frozen in time as mud. Many of these photos are also over saturated and way too contrasted. Excess, excessively.

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Jun 30, 2017 10:55:13   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
I don't care for that style either, but I'm not dumb enough to look til I'm tired of them!!

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Jun 30, 2017 11:07:55   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
davidrb wrote:
Cash customers want water that resembles taffy, not real water scenes. I shot a series of photographs of water crashing into a stone jetty during a very high speed wind. People were amazed to see water as it naturally appears, not the smoothed-over versions that make it look so pathetic. Moving water fanscinates humans but lately things have evolved into water looking almost solid. In noticing photographs of the northwestern region of the USA it is obvious that running water is still water and not some flow of Howard Johnson's saltwater taffy. The rivers of that region are almost perfect for landscape photography and the water is running in the riverbed, not frozen in time as mud. Many of these photos are also over saturated and way too contrasted. Excess, excessively.
Cash customers want water that resembles taffy, no... (show quote)


I totally agree. I had to judge an international photo. Contest. 99% of the water looked like tacky. Pretty sad trend. They didn't get my vote!

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Jun 30, 2017 11:16:21   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
RickL wrote:
It seems to be the thing to remove all of the detail from waterfalls. I prefer to see water detail and some action. How about water drops caught in mid air?





On the other hand;) our specie tend to imitate rather than create. How many images have we seen of sand dunes or a pier jutting out into the water? We have heard since the beginning that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. While that may be true it would be wise to remember that it is also the most direct route to mediocrity.

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Jun 30, 2017 11:27:11   #
Haydon
 
It's all a matter of personal choices here and artistry is subjective. It's no different than a Nikon/Canon battle or a SOOC/PP feud. Respect the work of others and drive your own work to find your style.

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Jun 30, 2017 13:23:37   #
cabunit Loc: SE Connecticut
 
Haydon wrote:
It's all a matter of personal choices here and artistry is subjective.


Hear! Hear!

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Jun 30, 2017 19:05:12   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Depends on the shot to me, I don't really prefer one way over the other. I kinda like the photo to tell me if I like it or not.

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Jun 30, 2017 19:33:03   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Haydon wrote:
It's all a matter of personal choices here and artistry is subjective. It's no different than a Nikon/Canon battle or a SOOC/PP feud. Respect the work of others and drive your own work to find your style.


I do both, then decide when I am in front of the computer which one I like better. Sometimes the "detailed" version doesn't do it for me. Sometimes an "in-between" look works best. And sometimes I just can't make up my mind. So this is how I do it for waterfalls. Surf is an entirely different story, as are huge, powerful waterfalls with tons of water coming down and crashing on the rocks.

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Jun 30, 2017 19:41:06   #
Haydon
 
I agree Gene. Even with the same SS, sometimes just the way the water flows can be more compelling in one image to the next. I often like to find a BALANCE between "angel hair" and motion. When I first started out, I couldn't wait to drag the shutter to much longer times than I do now.

Here's an illustration of what I call a balance from a B&W I did a while back.


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Jun 30, 2017 19:46:45   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
TheDman wrote:
Why do people complain about this instead of going out and showing us all how it's done?



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