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UK's largest ever warship, HMS Queen Elizabeth, sets sail for the first time
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Jun 27, 2017 23:39:24   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
http://newatlas.com/hms-queen-elizabeth-sea-trials/50213/?

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Jun 27, 2017 23:50:08   #
DOOK Loc: Maclean, Australia
 
Nice looking boat.

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Jun 28, 2017 00:13:08   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
DOOK wrote:
Nice looking boat.


Yes indeed!

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Jun 28, 2017 02:57:18   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Now all they have to do is figure out where the money is going to come from to operate it. Warplanes, fuel, salaries, maintenance isn't cheap!

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Jun 28, 2017 03:56:54   #
Leicaflex Loc: Cymru
 
Ah yes, the aircraft carrier we could not afford. When her sister ship is completed, it will be moth-balled!
We cannot afford that either.

It is the most expensive helicopter carrier ever built, because we cannot afford the aircraft to go on it.

There are no escort carrier-group ships either to escort it, destroyers, cruisers, frigates. So she will just
have to sail around and around the UK safe waters. If it did not cost so much money, it would be laughable.

Thank you for the link.

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Jun 28, 2017 07:40:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bcheary wrote:
http://newatlas.com/hms-queen-elizabeth-sea-trials/50213/?


A serious concern is the ship's use of Windows XP. Why would they do that? Not secure and not supported.
http://mashable.com/2017/06/27/hms-queen-elizabeth-windows-xp/?utm_campaign=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds#1mUoz3Th6iqB

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Jun 28, 2017 15:22:51   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
ken hubert wrote:
Now all they have to do is figure out where the money is going to come from to operate it. Warplanes, fuel, salaries, maintenance isn't cheap!


Yup.

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Jun 28, 2017 15:23:43   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
Leicaflex wrote:
Ah yes, the aircraft carrier we could not afford. When her sister ship is completed, it will be moth-balled!
We cannot afford that either.

It is the most expensive helicopter carrier ever built, because we cannot afford the aircraft to go on it.

There are no escort carrier-group ships either to escort it, destroyers, cruisers, frigates. So she will just
have to sail around and around the UK safe waters. If it did not cost so much money, it would be laughable.

Thank you for the link.
Ah yes, the aircraft carrier we could not afford. ... (show quote)


Not a pretty picture!

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Jun 28, 2017 15:27:08   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 


Hard to believe in this time and age, but I would question the sources. The Guardian is a distinctive leftist rag and I don't know about the Times these days. Maybe our English members can enlighten us.

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Jun 28, 2017 16:53:09   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
ken hubert wrote:
Now all they have to do is figure out where the money is going to come from to operate it. Warplanes, fuel, salaries, maintenance isn't cheap!


You'd better hope we do (find money). We're buying the planes from you!

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Jun 28, 2017 17:02:52   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
John N wrote:
You'd better hope we do (find money). We're buying the planes from you!


Well they say there is one born everyday! I wouldn't buy the F-35. It's a dud!

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Jun 28, 2017 17:45:58   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
bcheary wrote:
http://newatlas.com/hms-queen-elizabeth-sea-trials/50213/?


Seems like a barge. Top speed is given as 25 knots.

It isn't nuclear powered.

Top speed of US nuclear powered carriers is classified but most agree it is over 40 knots.

Not that it matters much. North Korea or Iran will be able to nuke them from miles away.

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Jun 28, 2017 18:43:39   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
MtnMan wrote:
Seems like a barge. Top speed is given as 25 knots.

It isn't nuclear powered.

Top speed of US nuclear powered carriers is classified but most agree it is over 40 knots.

Not that it matters much. North Korea or Iran will be able to nuke them from miles away.



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Jun 29, 2017 06:02:55   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
ken hubert wrote:
Well they say there is one born everyday! I wouldn't buy the F-35. It's a dud!


25 kts. is fine, non-nuclear is fine, rotary wing only is fine. We are going to use it to scare off the French and Spanish factory trawlers from our fishing waters when we exit the E.U. Until we run out of Fish Fingers!

I think this is a classic case of Government Interference. They wanted a big boys toy to play with the big boys, but won't recognise we're not the big boy anymore. And there might have been something underhand with the F-35 deal. I believe we're leasing them. Play today, pay tomorrow. And I don't think it's that much of an advance on the Harrier. Bit faster, more range etc., but I feel the Harrier had more development left in it or could have served as a base for a next generation.

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Jun 29, 2017 11:05:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ken hubert wrote:
I wouldn't buy the F-35. It's a dud!


I read last night that the time to pull the plug on the F-35 was twenty years ago. Now we're stuck with an expensive plane that doesn't work right. We were designing and building excellent planes during WW II - with slide rules! You'd think that computers would make the job much easier and more efficient.

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