Post processing for landscape images.
Jun 27, 2017 10:32:43 #
Gene51 wrote:
LR does the same thing. .
Gene I was just trying to emphasis a point.
Jun 27, 2017 10:50:45 #
Gene51 wrote:
Nice stuff. You'll like Lightroom. When you do a stitch, you can use raw files, and the end result is a raw (dng) file with all the same editing capability of a first generation raw file.
"When you do a stitch, you can use raw files"
Now that might be worth a look!
As I said in an earlier post, I started with PS and saw no reason to use LR. I didn't say, as a non-professional with a comparatively small work load, that the library idea holds no great allure. My look at LR was short, very short.
Jun 27, 2017 16:30:10 #
via the lens wrote:
P.S. You don't really "put the image into its Catalog." The catalog is just a set of metadata reflecting changes to each image and the actual image does not go "into" the catalog. If you did not make any changes to the image there would be no catalog data stored. Good to get it right so it's less confusing for people who don't know the software.
A preview of the image is put into the catalog. You can now do edits with the computer disconnected from the source of the image files.
Jun 27, 2017 16:51:12 #
I use Photoshop Elements and as I like it's catalogue system, I see no need for Lightroom.
Jun 27, 2017 18:05:05 #
hassighedgehog wrote:
I use Photoshop Elements and as I like it's catalogue system, I see no need for Lightroom.
The Elements organizer is good and similar to Lightroom's Library module. That isn't the reason to change.
There are many other reasons depending on your needs. One is that the Elements Editor works with only 8 bits. Lightroom with full 12 or 16 bits.
Another is the preset capability. Elements doesn't let you create Actions to apply what you did to other images. Lightroom does it simply with presets. Or you can synch the changes on multiple images all at once. You can't do that with either Elements or Photoshop.
There are many more but you'd have to show some intellectual curiosity and work to find them out. Overall Lightroom is much simpler to use than Elements.
That said Lightroom doesn't do layers. But Lightroom lets you easily "edit in" Elements or Photoshop if you need to use layers.
Oh, and the Lightroom catalog swallows the Elements Organizer database so there is no need to reenter or import stuff.
Jun 27, 2017 20:16:37 #
Definitely the $9.99 per month Lightroom CC+ PhotoShop CC package. Lightroom does a good job and is relatively easy to learn. Although much more difficult to learn, Photoshop plus Tony Kuyper's Luminosity Masking V5 Panel is the ultimate software for post processing landscape images....
Jun 28, 2017 18:09:30 #
Heather Iles
Loc: UK, Somerset
Gene51 wrote:
Post a sample image with "store original"... (show quote)
Thanks Gene for posting the links your Fickr page. They are absolutely beautiful and now I must go and learn how to take panoramas, as I too love Landscape photography. I have only just picked this thread up and I am glad that I have.
Jun 28, 2017 19:17:39 #
Heather Iles wrote:
Thanks Gene for posting the links your Fickr page. They are absolutely beautiful and now I must go and learn how to take panoramas, as I too love Landscape photography. I have only just picked this thread up and I am glad that I have.
Thank you Heather!
Jun 30, 2017 14:47:15 #
I've been using Photoshop for quite a while. I never use layers. Anything I need to do to tweak pictures is in the image and image adjustment tabs, the filters, and the automate tab, and the icons on the left side of the window. Everything is either a click or sliders. Other than removing an object from a picture and rebuilding the background, or changing the color of an object, I have never seen the need to use layers. If you don't use layers, there's no frustration in Photoshop.
JohnSwanda wrote:
There are plenty of books and online tutorials for Photoshop. And all you have to do to make it nondestructive is use adjustment layers to do everything, either globally or learn basic selection and masking techniques.
Jun 30, 2017 15:19:10 #
Bobspez wrote:
I've been using Photoshop for quite a while. I never use layers. Anything I need to do to tweak pictures is in the image and image adjustment tabs, the filters, and the automate tab, and the icons on the left side of the window. Everything is either a click or sliders. Other than removing an object from a picture and rebuilding the background, or changing the color of an object, I have never seen the need to use layers. If you don't use layers, there's no frustration in Photoshop.
The advantage of using adjustment layers is that they don't permanently change the photo, and you can go back any time and change the settings.
Jun 30, 2017 15:24:48 #
I just save the processed pic with a new name. The original is still unchanged. If I want to rework the original I just start again.
JohnSwanda wrote:
The advantage of using adjustment layers is that they don't permanently change the photo, and you can go back any time and change the settings.
Jul 3, 2017 15:53:16 #
I use lightroom, but the stand alone version. Can't see spending $10 a month for something.If you need photoshop, the Elements version is good enough for most photographers.
If you are a graphic designer or a professional, maybe you need the full version of photoshop, but most casual photographers can get by with Elements.
If you are a graphic designer or a professional, maybe you need the full version of photoshop, but most casual photographers can get by with Elements.
Jul 3, 2017 17:37:48 #
Layers is not that difficult. Other advantages of using layers: you can turn on and off each layer to see the effects, you can adjust the transparency and see immediate results to see if only a little or lot of adjustment is needed, you can use a layer only on part of the image by selecting first. I use it all the time to make white flowers more detailed by making a duplicate layer, changing it to black and white, then changing the blending mode to Luminosity.
Jul 3, 2017 17:51:12 #
Nothing is difficult once you learn to use it and continue to do so on a regular basis. I have learned and used layers but found the process difficult to learn and easy to forget. All of the other easy to use sliders and clicks are easy to learn and intuitive. Besides I rarely spend more than 5 minutes or so post processing a pic. I know what the sliders will do and what I expect to see. And there's an undo on everything, or if you really get messed up you can exit without saving and start over. My point was mainly that when people say PS is a steep learning curve, I found that only applied to layers. Without layers a person can probably experiment on their own and learn all the Photoshop they will need or use in a day.
hassighedgehog wrote:
Layers is not that difficult. Other advantages of using layers: you can turn on and off each layer to see the effects, you can adjust the transparency and see immediate results to see if only a little or lot of adjustment is needed, you can use a layer only on part of the image by selecting first. I use it all the time to make white flowers more detailed by making a duplicate layer, changing it to black and white, then changing the blending mode to Luminosity.
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