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Jun 25, 2017 02:08:13   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
CHOLLY wrote:
The SRT 101 was my FIRST real camera... and I WISH I still had MY collection of Rokkor lenses; in a word they were EXCELLENT!!!

As Ltgk20 mentions, the Sony A mount cameras... direct descendants of the original Minolta A mount cameras, have a different mount than your Rokkor MC/MC mount lenses and the two systems are incompatible.

You can find the adapter to manually focus your MC/MD mount Rokkor lens on the A99II A mount camera here:

https://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Lens-Mount-Adapter-Mount/dp/B0048A8CDU

With the A99II you have an EXCELLENT focus peaking feature in addition to focus magnification and one of the best EVF's available.

Ltgk20's suggestion that your Rokkor lenses would be a perfect match for the Sony E mount series of cameras is also a great alternative.

If you are prepared to spend the $3200 for the A99II, then you can buy the A7RII which uses the exact same sensor but produces slightly better image quality than the A99II. It is also smaller and considerably lighter than the A99II, and at this time several hundred dollars LESS expensive as Sony prepares to release the A7RIII to replace it.

The determining factor is the style of photography you intend to use the camera, and whether you want a small form factor similar to your SRT-101 or a traditional DSLR form factor that's larger.

Additionally, the A99II will shoot up to 12 frames per second, while the A7RII can "only" manage 5 fps.

You will ALSO need an adapter to use your Rokkor lenses on the E mount A7RII or any other E mount camera. There are currently 7 Full Frame E mount cameras: A7/A7II, A7S/A7SII, A7R/A7RII, and the brand new A9, which is geared towards professional sports and photo journalism.

ALL Sony interchangeable lens cameras regardless of mount offer focus peaking and focus magnification making them PERFECT for using older manual focus lenses. And as stated earlier, the image quality from Sony Cameras is EXCELLENT. Additionally, Sony cameras continue the Minolta legacy of innovation by offering a LARGE number of features and capabilities, usually for LESS than the competition.

So you DO have options to use your lenses.

GOOD LUCK!
The SRT 101 was my FIRST real camera... and I WISH... (show quote)


This is all good advice. But one clarification. The older Minolta MC/MD lenses, as used on the SRT 101 cannot be adapted to be used on the A99II if you intend to be able to focus to infinity. But you can get a different kind of adapter that has a lens in it, much like a teleconverter, to overcome this problem. But now you introduce all the IQ killing properties of the teleconverters. If you use an E-mount body, any of them, there is no such restriction.

Here is an adapter with the glass: (doesn't say what the magnification factor is, but I think they are about 1.4x.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-Ship-Minolta-MD-MC-Lens-to-MA-Sony-Alpha-A-Mount-Adapter-With-Optical-Glass-/401285258408?hash=item5d6e771ca8:g:AeYAAOSwax5YvMma

By the way, I am very, very fond of the Minolta Rokkor lenses. And I do use them on my A6xxx bodies. But I can't use them on my A-mount bodies and I am not interested in the adapter that adds the glass to make it focus to infinity.

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Jun 25, 2017 10:26:36   #
chaman
 
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^This guy.... has SERIOUS issues.

Just check out ANY of his posts..... SERIOUSLY.

He is one of the worst offenders when it comes to trolling people here on UHH.


And there you go! Using the "trolling" thing again! What the matter....you dont like a taste of your own medicine? Its easy....just show us your work......not that difficult.

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Jun 25, 2017 13:37:29   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
BHC wrote:
I'd easily rank you in the top five, maybe the top three. You join threads just to incite dissension.


I comment on Sony cameras and lenses. I also give my opinion on the use of so-called protective filters, which DO NOT protect lenses but DO reduce image quality. This IS after all, a discussion board. I do not insult peoples work nor their character just for the sake of doing so. Nor do I go out of my way to call people insulting or demeaning names. Quite the opposite; I live by the maxim that life is short and you should treat people the way you want to be treated.

If however, you are willing to show me where I "trolled" someone, then I am MORE willing to take a look and if guilty, apologize to all....

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Jun 25, 2017 13:48:13   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
JimH123 wrote:
This is all good advice. But one clarification. The older Minolta MC/MD lenses, as used on the SRT 101 cannot be adapted to be used on the A99II if you intend to be able to focus to infinity. But you can get a different kind of adapter that has a lens in it, much like a teleconverter, to overcome this problem. But now you introduce all the IQ killing properties of the teleconverters. If you use an E-mount body, any of them, there is no such restriction.

Here is an adapter with the glass: (doesn't say what the magnification factor is, but I think they are about 1.4x.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-Ship-Minolta-MD-MC-Lens-to-MA-Sony-Alpha-A-Mount-Adapter-With-Optical-Glass-/401285258408?hash=item5d6e771ca8:g:AeYAAOSwax5YvMma

By the way, I am very, very fond of the Minolta Rokkor lenses. And I do use them on my A6xxx bodies. But I can't use them on my A-mount bodies and I am not interested in the adapter that adds the glass to make it focus to infinity.
This is all good advice. But one clarification. ... (show quote)


Hey JimH I agree with you on those Rokkors; they are EXCELLENT lenses... even the worst performing.

That Fotodiox adapter I linked above has a removable 1.4X element that allows you to focus to infinity with MD/MC lenses. At $40 I can't vouch for the image quality... but at least it's an option if you have a good sized collection of old glass.

When Minolta switched from MD/MC/SR to AF glass, they automated everything, and ALL settings had to be made through the camera. Easier for sure, but in a sense, less tactile.

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Jun 25, 2017 18:26:20   #
chaman
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSCjUlQsjE

Native glass desperately needed specially for the users this camera is intended to for.

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Jun 26, 2017 13:39:18   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
chaman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSCjUlQsjE

Native glass desperately needed specially for the users this camera is intended to for.


Ha, I was about to post this link myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSCjUlQsjE

Once again, I will say this for the record:

1) The Sony A9 appears to be an excellent camera

2) The entire industry is in transition, no company has it right yet, and the transition will take years to play out.

3) At the end of the day it is about the entire system not just the camera.

4) This video appears to be an independent, impartial review, and in my opinion is fairly balanced. It gives some very positive assessments and also comments upon limitations.

5) We need balanced viewpoints more than we need advertisements, so people can make informed decisions for themselves.

So, to Cholly, you may call me 'Trolly' if you want to. I will call you 'Shilly' in return. Neither approach supports a useful objective discussion.

I thought this video was especially useful in praising the achievements made by Sony with the A9, pointing out the limits of the native lens availability, the benefits and limitations of the Metabones adapters - arguably some of the best adapters available - but completely supports the thesis that the market and industry is in a period of major transition and it is much too early to predict the outcome.

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Jun 26, 2017 14:20:26   #
chaman
 
Peterff wrote:
Ha, I was about to post this link myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSCjUlQsjE

Once again, I will say this for the record:

1) The Sony A9 appears to be an excellent camera

2) The entire industry is in transition, no company has it right yet, and the transition will take years to play out.

3) At the end of the day it is about the entire system not just the camera.

4) This video appears to be an independent, impartial review, and in my opinion is fairly balanced. It gives some very positive assessments and also comments upon limitations.

5) We need balanced viewpoints more than we need advertisements, so people can make informed decisions for themselves.

So, to Cholly, you may call me 'Trolly' if you want to. I will call you 'Shilly' in return. Neither approach supports a useful objective discussion.

I thought this video was especially useful in praising the achievements made by Sony with the A9, pointing out the limits of the native lens availability, the benefits and limitations of the Metabones adapters - arguably some of the best adapters available - but completely supports the thesis that the market and industry is in a period of major transition and it is much too early to predict the outcome.
Ha, I was about to post this link myself. img s... (show quote)


Exactly my same view on this. The concept of a system seem to be elusive to some. Having adapters for this and that is not enough. Sony has been to preoccupied with their bodies and their lens lineup has suffered. Its indeed a great body that can be, at last, measured against the big boys. Saying it runs rings around them is just a silly statement. I agree we need objective posts and not someone memorizing tech aspects just to vomit them here and reach to shallow conclusions.

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Jun 26, 2017 15:51:54   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
kakuenzli wrote:
I have an old Minolta SRT-101 camera. I want to upgrade to a DSLR camera. I saw where the Sony a99 II camera body was advertised as accepting old Minolta lenses, but the auto focus feature on the camera will not work since these are not auto focus lenses. At the camera store I was told my old Minolta lenses will not fit the Sony a99 II body, only newer Minolta lenses will fit the Sony a99 II body. I would like to know if this is correct, or did the camera store people tell me this only so they could also sell me a new Sony lens.
I have an old Minolta SRT-101 camera. I want to up... (show quote)


Another question for you: what type of photography do you intend to use the new camera for?

I ask, because if you are into sports and wildlife, then the type of mount will also play a big role.

The A99II is one of the BEST all around shooters available. It can fire up to 12 frames per second with FULL auto focus and auto exposure and produce high quality images at up to 42 megapixels. It can also shoot up to 8 frames per second black-out free.... great for sports and wildlife. OF COURSE using your manual focus MD/MC lenses will limit your ability to take advantage of the powerful auto focus features, but there are PLENTY of Minolta AF and Sony/Sony Zeiss lenses available for a reasonable price that can utilize the A99II's sensor for excellent imaging. This also makes it the perfect camera for portraiture and landscape photography.... making the A99II one of the BEST all-around cameras available, regardless of make or price.

On the other hand, the Sony full frame E mount cameras with the exception of the A9, are NOT sports shooters. Maximum frame rate is 5 per second, great by 2010 standards but not suitable for sports or wildlife in 2017. They do however, make EXCEPTIONAL landscape and portraiture instruments. With EXTREMELY good dynamic range, low light performance, overall image quality. And the size of the A7XXX family of cameras is closer to that of your SRT-101 than the A99II if that is a concern.

You have PLENTY of options available to you but just remember this: The SAME company that brought you the SRT-101 MD/MC combination and the DECADES of use you got out of it... is now part of Sony, which not only bought all the patents, factory space, and inventory of Minolta... but also brought over all the engineers, product specialists, technicians, and leadership.

The innovative spirit that was typified by the slogan "Only from the mind of Minolta" lives on at Sony, and is on FULL display in the cutting edge technology found in Sony SLT and Full Frame E mount cameras.

Either way, you can not and WILL NOT go wrong.

GOOD LUCK!!

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Jun 26, 2017 16:41:26   #
chaman
 
A real world use has found some banding in the A9. At times is much more evident. The opinion is very objective and fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1JCHfXDdY

At times looks almost like some electrical interference.

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Jun 26, 2017 19:57:34   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
chaman wrote:
A real world use has found some banding in the A9. At times is much more evident. The opinion is very objective and fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1JCHfXDdY

At times looks almost like some electrical interference.


Another good find, once again some positive, some negative, and some questions.

The technology is clearly evolving, and in some instances is not quite there yet. None of this is brand bashing, nor it it bashing mechanical vs electronic, just assessing the technology and the results.

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Jun 26, 2017 20:18:48   #
chaman
 
Peterff wrote:
Another good find, once again some positive, some negative, and some questions.

The technology is clearly evolving, and in some instances is not quite there yet. None of this is brand bashing, nor it it bashing mechanical vs electronic, just assessing the technology and the results.


Agreed. Jared Polin gave a very honest opinion and even praised the body. But converting each post into basically an advertisement goes against any intention of truly learning and evaluating every gear in an objective manner.

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Jun 26, 2017 22:39:19   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1JCHfXDdY

0:30 Mark : "After I counted all the images, it's somewhere around TWO PERCENT of the nineteen hundred and five images that were taken. So roughly 50 of them showed banding issues."

5:30 Mark: "Here's around the area where the banding issue was happening. I just moved to the side this time. You can see that you are getting banding in the LCD Scree-Look at that! That's banding coming in from there."

Fro-knows goes on to say: "Now, that doesn't bother me as much 'cause it; we used to see that flicker in TV's... but it shouldn't be there because I'll show you in a couple of minutes different shots with Nikon and Canon that don't have that."

Fro-knows then showed us images taken by those cameras.... FROM DIFFERENT DAYS WITH DIFFERENT LIGHTING CONDITIONS SHOT FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

In EVERY one of the images Fro-knows used to illustrate "the banding problem", the subject was actually ILLUMINATED BY THE FLICKERING LED BOARDS.

In FACT, close inspection of HIS images from HIS website showed that the "banding" was indeed only visible.......... IN REFLECTED LIGHT OFF SUBJECTS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF AND ILLUMINATED BY THOSE BOARDS.

It was NOT visible in the crowd shots, the background, or the sky shots. Not even a LITTLE bit.

NOR was it visible in images where the subject WAS NOT directly illuminated by the LCD boards. Not even REMOTELY visible.

So, what is the solution to eliminating this flicker effect only seen in the roughly 2% of the 1,905 images Fro-knows took? Well, it's VERY simple; ADJUST YOUR SHUTTER SPEED.

PERIOD.

The dynamic range and ISO range of the A9 is sufficient that the photographic exposure technique can be adjusted AWAY from the frequency where this flicker effect occurs and the "problem" is solved.

The electronic shutter is one of the biggest selling points of the A9. It not only allows silent shooting, but enables the camera to shoot a 20 frames per second, black out free. On the other hand, this flicker issue is EXTREMELY rare, and easily dealt with.

Remember; there were approximately 50 out of 1,905 images that showed this so-called banding.

HE even said it was not a big deal. As Obi-wan said; "Nothing to see here..... MOVE ALONG."




BTW:

I like THIS video better, because it was actually carried out by a photographer who has demonstrated his familiarity with The Scientific Method:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyPc7g_W6yg&t=1s


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Jun 26, 2017 22:56:01   #
chaman
 
There should be ZERO banding, fanboy, ZERO. We all saw the video and yet you, still, find an excuse for Sony. Those same LED boards were present with the other cameras and ZERO banding was seen. If, according to you, the cause of the bands is from the LEDS then its something with the A9. Lighting conditions were even more favorable when the A9 was used. He said that when he used the Nikon and Canon it was under darker conditions. As always you have an aversion to even ACCEPT the banding issue CLEARLY present. As he himself said it MAY not be a big deal for some but if your best image of the day showed these bands then it could mean a BIG deal. You have a clear inability to be objective. You are not doing a service for Sony but only making it worse with such an attitude.

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Jun 27, 2017 13:57:52   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
kakuenzli wrote:
I have an old Minolta SRT-101 camera. I want to upgrade to a DSLR camera. I saw where the Sony a99 II camera body was advertised as accepting old Minolta lenses, but the auto focus feature on the camera will not work since these are not auto focus lenses. At the camera store I was told my old Minolta lenses will not fit the Sony a99 II body, only newer Minolta lenses will fit the Sony a99 II body. I would like to know if this is correct, or did the camera store people tell me this only so they could also sell me a new Sony lens.
I have an old Minolta SRT-101 camera. I want to up... (show quote)


This is a brand new review by The Camera Store of the A99II:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3cKx94KZs8

Here are others if you are interested....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgWkqO7zlMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70ndQelfmUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-beDkAzi-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDIkUJyu3Ko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDDKbSbXeAM&t=14s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OXV1p6oS54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_aCK51Vo04&t=715s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGDrewFbvY

And the most critical of all the reviews by Tony Northrup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1M1K91vlKU

A good mix of reviews covering the good and the bad of both the A99II and SLT technology.

ENJOY!!!

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Jun 27, 2017 14:17:27   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
IF you shoot video with AF, then this video shows you a work-around for the A99II shutter speed limitation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axihHDddXNM

It works.

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