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Jun 15, 2017 07:43:42   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Silverman wrote:
Yes, I agree, I have researched this subject, be careful how you use your people or Private property images, selling them for you personal profit can be a legal nightmare for you, you must get signed permission to use their photos for your profit.


How many times does this falsehood have to be repeated?

You CAN profit from images you take WITHOUT signed permission forms. You CANNOT however USE images to ADVERTISE a product or service without doing so.


You can put them on mugs...t-shirts...make posters, billboards, use them on websites...any number of things and make a great profit....

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Jun 15, 2017 07:44:59   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
[quote=Howard5252]
rehess wrote:
I enjoy photographing photographers
I have a small collection of photographs of photographers. I like to take the people who lean back while
taking a picture.


There you go. At least why one takes the photos of photographers!

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Jun 15, 2017 07:45:53   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I like photographing the photographer. I couldn't care less if they don't like it or not.

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Jun 15, 2017 07:47:20   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rpavich wrote:
How many times does this falsehood have to be repeated?

You CAN profit from images you take WITHOUT signed permission forms. You CANNOT however USE images to ADVERTISE a product or service without doing so.


You can put them on mugs...t-shirts...make posters, billboards, use them on websites...any number of things and make a great profit....


READ the OP's actual question. They are asking why the photographer now subject might object, not about the legal status of candids.

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Jun 15, 2017 07:57:31   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
bkyser wrote:
Honestly, I kind of wonder if they think you are "stealing" their shot. i.e. taking photos of their subject in the pose that they set up. It doesn't bother me in a place like a park, but I absolutely hate it when guests stay after the ceremony at a wedding and keep snapping my set ups.

They end up posting their one shot on Facebook getting credit for their amazing skill, before I get mine downloaded.


According to the OP he is not photographing the scene. He photographs the photographer.

Dennis

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Jun 15, 2017 08:03:10   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
n3eg wrote:
If you really want to piss them off, use flash.


Especially if you get real close

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Jun 15, 2017 08:11:37   #
Stu Smith
 
I enjoy catching photographers at work. Most don't mind. I use their subjects only when in group with photographer.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/stuimages/33902864316/in/dateposted-ff/

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Jun 15, 2017 08:12:32   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
There is a large park I like to go there. There are a good number of photographers use it as background for their various people photography. I like to take pictures of them (not their subjects) but they seem to be annoyed by that. Why is that?

It might be normal human nature. It reminds me how I love to record musical events but never the ones where I play and even prefer these not be recorded at all. You may recall conversations where people say they hate the sound of their voice when they hear it in a recording. Likewise, I hate being photographed but love to photograph others. I used to joke that I kept a cocked Nikon on a neck strap in order to beat anyone to the draw. Good actors and musicians have confidence and are likely not bothered by any such sense of shyness in how they look or sound. (I cure my fear of microphones by practicing a lot but unfortunately nothing will help my looks.) More to the point, I am impressed by skilled portrait photographers who are able to let their subjects feel totally at ease, even happy. I like the suggestion by markngolf.

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Jun 15, 2017 08:17:39   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
lamiaceae wrote:
READ the OP's actual question. They are asking why the photographer now subject might object, not about the legal status of candids.


Read who I was replying to...not the OP. I realize the question the OP asked but that's not what I was addressing.

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Jun 15, 2017 08:21:46   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Wonderful expansion of your initial post. Thanks for the acknowledgement. I feel upfront and honest communication resolves most "conflicts". It is a bit risky, but usually provides great satisfaction.
Mark
Retina wrote:
It might be normal human nature. It reminds me how I love to record musical events but never the ones where I play and even prefer these not be recorded at all. You may recall conversations where people say they hate the sound of their voice when they hear it in a recording. Likewise, I hate being photographed but love to photograph others. I used to joke that I kept a cocked Nikon on a neck strap in order to beat anyone to the draw. Good actors and musicians have confidence and are likely not bothered by any such sense of shyness in how they look or sound. (I cure my fear of microphones by practicing a lot but unfortunately nothing will help my looks.) More to the point, I am impressed by skilled portrait photographers who are able to let their subjects feel totally at ease, even happy. I like the suggestion by markngolf.
It might be normal human nature. It reminds me how... (show quote)

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Jun 15, 2017 08:33:09   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
BebuLamar wrote:
There is a large park I like to go there. There are a good number of photographers use it as background for their various people photography. I like to take pictures of them (not their subjects) but they seem to be annoyed by that. Why is that?


I was on assignment in Central Park shooting my daughter in law on her stilted Hello Kitty outfit, she and her friend book parties and the photo's were to be posted to their web site for possible future gigs. Anyway I was shooting them under a blooming Cherry tree and we caused quite a stir with parents and their young daughters. Many folks were shooting all of us, some were shooting me, cause I'm cute, but most were shooting my daughter in law and her friend. I loved being photographed as much as I enjoyed taking the shots. Double Joy.

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Jun 15, 2017 08:33:19   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
Hal81 wrote:
Their fare game in a public place. As long as you don't use for profit without their permission.


Do photographers who do street photography get permission from those they photograph and try to sell??

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Jun 15, 2017 08:37:59   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
billnikon wrote:
I was on assignment in Central Park shooting my daughter in law on her stilted Hello Kitty outfit, she and her friend book parties and the photo's were to be posted to their web site for possible future gigs. Anyway I was shooting them under a blooming Cherry tree and we caused quite a stir with parents and their young daughters. Many folks were shooting all of us, some were shooting me, cause I'm cute, but most were shooting my daughter in law and her friend. I loved being photographed as much as I enjoyed taking the shots. Double Joy.
I was on assignment in Central Park shooting my da... (show quote)



Mark

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Jun 15, 2017 08:42:59   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Mary Kate wrote:
Do photographers who do street photography get permission from those they photograph and try to sell??


Technically, if your shooting a public person (politician or celebrity), you do not need their permission, but if it is a PRIVATE individual, legally you need their permission to publish or use for commercial use, and personally I always asked permission first, it's a cutesy that I would like to be offered also.

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Jun 15, 2017 08:44:26   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Hal81 wrote:
Their fare game in a public place. As long as you don't use for profit without their permission.


If in public fair game, period. Do the paparazzi ask permission before the pictures make the tabloids?

One of the subtle reasons we take pictures, we prefer to be behind the lens and not in front.

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