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Jun 12, 2017 11:20:59   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Lets see if the 'Climate Warming Supporters' respond with their expertise.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BC1l4geSTP8

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Jun 12, 2017 11:53:34   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas. Consider methane CH4, for example. As global temperatures rise the frozen reaches of Alaska melt and release methane. We have worldwide disappearing of glaciers, rising sea levels, loss of Artic sea ice, calving of Antartic glaciars, increasing high seas pH levels leading to coral reef die off. The list can go on and on and on. His initial point of small numbers, of course, appeals to some, but we are talking about the thermodynamic shifting of equilibria of physical systems. I do have some quibbles with the popular model that greenhouse gases reflect heat back to the surface. I think that model is not correct.

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Jun 12, 2017 12:42:08   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
John_F wrote:
The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas. Consider methane CH4, for example. As global temperatures rise the frozen reaches of Alaska melt and release methane. We have worldwide disappearing of glaciers, rising sea levels, loss of Artic sea ice, calving of Antartic glaciars, increasing high seas pH levels leading to coral reef die off. The list can go on and on and on. His initial point of small numbers, of course, appeals to some, but we are talking about the thermodynamic shifting of equilibria of physical systems. I do have some quibbles with the popular model that greenhouse gases reflect heat back to the surface. I think that model is not correct.
The physical evidence for global warming is not re... (show quote)


After proper investigation none of the supposed effects you describe can be ascribed to AGW.
You have fallen victim to the persistent drip of dishonest warmist propaganda.
Even the alarmist computer projections are proving to be false.

There are surely better ways of wasting money and human effort?

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Jun 12, 2017 12:52:22   #
FlyingTiger Loc: Tortola, BVI
 
Griff wrote:
After proper investigation none of the supposed effects you describe can be ascribed to AGW.
You have fallen victim to the persistent drip of dishonest warmist propaganda.
Even the alarmist computer projections are proving to be false.

There are surely better ways of wasting money and human effort?


Well said.

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Jun 12, 2017 13:05:15   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
John_F wrote:
The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas. Consider methane CH4, for example. As global temperatures rise the frozen reaches of Alaska melt and release methane. We have worldwide disappearing of glaciers, rising sea levels, loss of Artic sea ice, calving of Antartic glaciars, increasing high seas pH levels leading to coral reef die off. The list can go on and on and on. His initial point of small numbers, of course, appeals to some, but we are talking about the thermodynamic shifting of equilibria of physical systems. I do have some quibbles with the popular model that greenhouse gases reflect heat back to the surface. I think that model is not correct.
The physical evidence for global warming is not re... (show quote)


https://youtu.be/T43vc4NZUUc

https://youtu.be/TCy_UOjEir0

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Jun 12, 2017 13:40:22   #
Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
John_F wrote:
The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas. Consider methane CH4, for example. As global temperatures rise the frozen reaches of Alaska melt and release methane. We have worldwide disappearing of glaciers, rising sea levels, loss of Artic sea ice, calving of Antartic glaciars, increasing high seas pH levels leading to coral reef die off. The list can go on and on and on. His initial point of small numbers, of course, appeals to some, but we are talking about the thermodynamic shifting of equilibria of physical systems. I do have some quibbles with the popular model that greenhouse gases reflect heat back to the surface. I think that model is not correct.
The physical evidence for global warming is not re... (show quote)


All of which is why there are few actual warming deniers. Climate change is a constant.
The problem remains, though, that connecting that change with man's actions is very hard to do, and so far, any "evidence" is clouded by the hyperbole of the true believers.
What was threatened/predicted hasn't happened, making more skeptics all the time. Computer models have proven to be only models of scenarios that have not happened.
There have been ice ages in the past, with subsequent warming periods, which climatologists can't explain. But THIS TIME, we are told, they know exactly what's happening. Except they can't quite explain why it's not happening the way they said it would.
Well, a lot of us know why: Because they don't know.
Maybe it's anthropogenic, maybe it's not. While it sounds good that it may be, in some part, the truth, the problem remains that the "solution" will cost many trillion$, and will, at the best projections (by those who are pushing for the spending to reduce C)2 emissions) are that it would slow down the warming by a very small percentage.
IOW, we're doomed either way, by their own words.
Of course, we're not doomed at all. While the prophecies are for a greta rise in sea levels, there is no work going on here to actually prepare for that rise.
Why is that?

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Jun 12, 2017 15:26:06   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
Griff wrote:
After proper investigation none of the supposed effects you describe can be ascribed to AGW.
You have fallen victim to the persistent drip of dishonest warmist propaganda.
Even the alarmist computer projections are proving to be false.

There are surely better ways of wasting money and human effort?
we could always build a wall.

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Jun 12, 2017 15:37:23   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
John_F wrote:
The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas. Consider methane CH4, for example. As global temperatures rise the frozen reaches of Alaska melt and release methane. We have worldwide disappearing of glaciers, rising sea levels, loss of Artic sea ice, calving of Antartic glaciars, increasing high seas pH levels leading to coral reef die off. The list can go on and on and on. His initial point of small numbers, of course, appeals to some, but we are talking about the thermodynamic shifting of equilibria of physical systems. I do have some quibbles with the popular model that greenhouse gases reflect heat back to the surface. I think that model is not correct.
The physical evidence for global warming is not re... (show quote)


"The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas" If this is the case then why all the big deal about CO2 reduction and taxes to insure the reduction of the 1% other than to fleece the public with a phony tax. The whole thing is a scam.

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Jun 12, 2017 15:38:58   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
user47602 wrote:
we could always build a wall.

you could always sit on it, just like Humpty Dumpty.

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Aug 27, 2017 10:03:33   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
John_F wrote:
The physical evidence for global warming is not refuted. CO2 is not the only heat trapping gas. Consider methane CH4, for example. As global temperatures rise the frozen reaches of Alaska melt and release methane. We have worldwide disappearing of glaciers, rising sea levels, loss of Artic sea ice, calving of Antartic glaciars, increasing high seas pH levels leading to coral reef die off. The list can go on and on and on. His initial point of small numbers, of course, appeals to some, but we are talking about the thermodynamic shifting of equilibria of physical systems. I do have some quibbles with the popular model that greenhouse gases reflect heat back to the surface. I think that model is not correct.
The physical evidence for global warming is not re... (show quote)


I accept the change in climate which has been going on for billions of years. I don't accept the asinine panic approach to reducing the so called greenhouse gases when
the main change is right before us. To many people and I don't mean reduction through war but by education, mandatory vasectomy and having their tubes ties. Before
you start attacking me would you rather have overpopulation or living a better life? Remember that the Muslim goals is to overpopulate so to control the world.

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Sep 3, 2017 12:41:32   #
Nalle Loc: Tellus
 
Checkmate wrote:
I accept the change in climate which has been going on for billions of years. I don't accept the asinine panic approach to reducing the so called greenhouse gases when
the main change is right before us. To many people and I don't mean reduction through war but by education, mandatory vasectomy and having their tubes ties. Before
you start attacking me would you rather have overpopulation or living a better life? Remember that the Muslim goals is to overpopulate so to control the world.
b I accept the change in climate which has been g... (show quote)


Infoworld??

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Sep 3, 2017 16:00:46   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Nalle wrote:
Infoworld??

Just fact.

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