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Jun 12, 2017 05:33:24   #
avemal Loc: BALTIMORE
 
Good Info.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJ_jUXzc0E

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Jun 12, 2017 07:14:05   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Thanks a bunch Spider.

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Jun 12, 2017 07:20:51   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Thanks TriX,
I'll give those settings a try as well as the other settings suggested by the rest of the UHH's.
I'm in the process of going over my manuals again. I guess what works best is just playing around with my gear and become more familiar with it.

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Jun 12, 2017 07:24:18   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 


Thanks avemal, I'm book marking the link and use it as a reference. I know the same info is in the manual but I find seeing it done is easier for me to learn.

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Jun 12, 2017 09:46:52   #
Toby
 
Cookie223 wrote:
I recently posted "Need Advice" and quite a few of you provided excellent advice, but unfortunately I'm below novice and made a mess of things.
Please take a look at a couple of picture taken today. It was very sunny and around 91 degree's.

I used to put my camera in sports mode, AF and called it a day. Based on the advice I received this is what I set my camera for today:
Shutter speed 800, auto ISO, AI Servo, and single point focus.

Everything looked clear through the view finder, and a few shots I either took under a tent (group pictures) or I shielded the view finder. A good portion of the pictures I took were pretty much washed out. I know I made quite a few mistakes, but don't know exactly what! Your opinion will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Cookie
I recently posted "Need Advice" and quit... (show quote)


First of all other than the one that's blurry the rest can be corrected with LR.
Shooting outside on a nice sunny day I would probably shoot aperture priority with the ISO set so that the shutter speed is at least 1/800. The shutter speed will float and if the lighting changes just make sure it is always 1/800 or higher by adjusting the ISO. If you have LR shoot in manual and the slight variations you get can be corrected with it. If lighting conditions change significantly you may need to change the ISO

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Jun 12, 2017 09:56:30   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
First You can go back after you post and add a heading. Either 1.2.3 or a name. This allows for better discussions. I looked at the second picture only and see a couple of things. You had the lens wide open, (aperture) at F 2.8 which is the worst (DOF) depth of field that you can have. F 8 or F 11 would be better. ISO is 400, but could be 800 or 1600 if needed. Shutter speed was OK for hand held at 200 mm. Learn to see your camera settings on your computer so you can understand what you did each time. David

If you need more light, you could slow shutter to 1/200 which is 3 f stops but you would need to catch the players when they are not moving.



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Jun 12, 2017 10:27:28   #
Ray and JoJo Loc: Florida--Tenneessee
 
Spider223 wrote:
I agree with everything you said, except the image stabilization part. If he is able to maintain 1/1000 sec shutter speed (or above 1/500th), I would stay away from the image stabilization. He would be shooting at a fast enough shutter speed (easily) with his 200mm zoom. Image Stabilization in the case of dynamic sports, such as Lacrosse, may actually increase blur. His owners manual, Page 41 states that it should be used for static images.


AMEN brother hard to create blur at 1/1000 sec, image stabilization is not needed at that speed, even for a 75 year old

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Jun 12, 2017 11:17:57   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Toby wrote:
First of all other than the one that's blurry the rest can be corrected with LR.
Shooting outside on a nice sunny day I would probably shoot aperture priority with the ISO set so that the shutter speed is at least 1/800. The shutter speed will float and if the lighting changes just make sure it is always 1/800 or higher by adjusting the ISO. If you have LR shoot in manual and the slight variations you get can be corrected with it. If lighting conditions change significantly you may need to change the ISO
First of all other than the one that's blurry the ... (show quote)


Thanks Toby,

I really have a lot to learn. The data you provided was the settings that I recall, but how were you able to get what settings I used?

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Jun 12, 2017 11:19:48   #
Spider223
 
Cookie223 wrote:
Thanks Toby,

I really have a lot to learn. The data you provided was the settings that I recall, but how were you able to get what settings I used?


In Windows, right click on the unopened photo, choose properties, then choose Details.

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Jun 12, 2017 11:20:11   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Ray and JoJo wrote:
AMEN brother hard to create blur at 1/1000 sec, image stabilization is not needed at that speed, even for a 75 year old


Ray, I'm 69, my eyes are not what they used to be, and with the sun & heat beating on my bald head wasn't helping at all! LOL
Thanks

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Jun 12, 2017 11:27:52   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
set your speed and be sure your iSO is high enough to handle you f stops. That is a start with out complementing your life.

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Jun 12, 2017 14:35:03   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
You better check you camera setting again. According to the EXIF information you used M mode (manual) 1/640 iso400 f/2.8 on all of the images except for the last one which was at 1/800th of a second shutter and you used portrait Mode.

My advice is to use Aperture priority to start. Study the EXIF on all pictures taken in the sun so that you get an idea what your exposure settings will be at certain f/stops.

If you shoot in Manual exposure mode, you can get good shots but you simply didn't pay attention to the exposure meter that is built into your viewfinder as you look through it to take a picture. If you are using the LCD to compose your shots, stop that now - especially out in the sun. Using the LCD to shoot depletes your battery much faster, is harder to get and keep subjects in focus and is harder to keep the camera steady. Also, try changing your settings so that you use only one single focus point and then learn to move it around so that you can choose which part is in focus and which part is not. When shooting sporting events, it's best to follow your subject and keep that person in focus and try to put the focus point on their head because having sharp eyes are the most important thing when shooting living subject matter.

Cookie223 wrote:
I recently posted "Need Advice" and quite a few of you provided excellent advice, but unfortunately I'm below novice and made a mess of things.
Please take a look at a couple of picture taken today. It was very sunny and around 91 degree's.

I used to put my camera in sports mode, AF and called it a day. Based on the advice I received this is what I set my camera for today:
Shutter speed 800, auto ISO, AI Servo, and single point focus.

Everything looked clear through the view finder, and a few shots I either took under a tent (group pictures) or I shielded the view finder. A good portion of the pictures I took were pretty much washed out. I know I made quite a few mistakes, but don't know exactly what! Your opinion will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Cookie
I recently posted "Need Advice" and quit... (show quote)

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Jun 12, 2017 16:54:31   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
[quote=jeep_daddy]You better check you camera setting again. According to the EXIF information you used M mode (manual) 1/640 iso400 f/2.8 on all of the images except for the last one which was at 1/800th of a second shutter and you used portrait Mode.

My advice is to use Aperture priority to start. Study the EXIF on all pictures taken in the sun so that you get an idea what your exposure settings will be at certain f/stops.

If you shoot in Manual exposure mode, you can get good shots but you simply didn't pay attention to the exposure meter that is built into your viewfinder as you look through it to take a picture.

Your are absolutely correct Jeep Daddy. I didn't pay any attention to the exposure meter, nor do I usually do😳
I get caught in the moment and try to capture the moment. Obviously I have a heck of a lot to learn. And yes I must have accidentally select portrait mode.

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Jun 13, 2017 12:36:24   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Cookie223 wrote:
Your are absolutely correct Jeep Daddy. I didn't pay any attention to the exposure meter, nor do I usually do😳
I get caught in the moment and try to capture the moment. Obviously I have a heck of a lot to learn. And yes I must have accidentally select portrait mode.


That is why I recommend using aperture priority. Most of the time you can put it in aperture priority and forget about it. In low light conditions you may need to up your ISO settings. But remember, in aperture priority you choose the aperture you want for the depth of field you are looking for. I'd start out with the aperture wide open especially if you are shooting subjects that move. Also, don't forget about focus settings. You want to use the servo mode 99 percent of the time because it adjusts as your subject or you move. Use a single focal point too. If you use all 50 or whatever you have, then the camera will always choose the closest subject that any one of the focal points hits. Better to have one point and let you choose the subject you want in focus. Most of the time your subject will be closest to you, but not always. In your last picture, the middle person was in focus but I get the impression that you wanted the person closest to you in focus.

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Jun 13, 2017 13:51:55   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Thank you very much Jeep daddy!

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