BarTim wrote:
Hello All,
Hopefully someone can help with this question, there's a lot of wisdom in this group. :)
Anyway, I do about a 3rd of my birding from the water.
I use a 12' canoe or a 9' kayak. Both have been good for some things, but I'd just like more stability.
I just saw a 9' pontoon boat for that wasn't very expensive and it'll take an electric trolling motor.
Does anyone have any feedback on this type of watercraft?
I figured I'd mount a tripod in the front somehow, I've rigged them on the other boats without much trouble.
Thanks a lot for reading and any help you can offer.
Have a good one.
Tim
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still going to rock, maybe one of the hard pickup truck sized "bass" boats, still rocking but probably less, the inflatable has very little pontoon that is actually full size, now a real pontoon, lot steadier, but bigger and more expensive, check out Bass Pro website, several there
Thee is a guy on You Tube that videos fishing out of his kayak, based in Florida I think, name starts with a Z, Zofflinger?, might help to look at the videos and his rig, does a lot of video, Bob.
Longer sit on top kayak probably 10 / 12 foot, fishing type kayaks are the best for what you want to do and can get in very close to shore.
MikeG
Loc: Northern Wisconsin
The foldable pontoon in the pic is undoubtedly the most stable platform but not very stealthy. In my mind a kayak (I have a 13 footer) is much too unstable to entrust my camera equipment to. Here's an alternative to mull over; Several years ago I bought an old aluminum 17' canoe at a garage sale. Cheap and already dinged up but watertight. Then I found online, a guy that makes detachable/adjustable outriggers that quickly and easily bolt onto my water-beater. Made that canoe extremely stable. Good luck!
I second Mike G's comment. I have a 16' canoe with outriggers that make the canoe extremely stable and track easier. An electric trolling motor could be mounted on my setup, but I've never tried one as I prefer to sneak up on the wildlife. Also, I second one of the earlier commenters who mentioned that the lower seating in a canoe or kayak helps to get the "bird's level" shots that IMHO are more interesting than a look down shot. Just my two cents.
JCam
Loc: MD Eastern Shore
BarTim wrote:
Hello All,
Hopefully someone can help with this question, there's a lot of wisdom in this group. :)
Anyway, I do about a 3rd of my birding from the water.
I use a 12' canoe or a 9' kayak. Both have been good for some things, but I'd just like more stability.
I just saw a 9' pontoon boat for that wasn't very expensive and it'll take an electric trolling motor.
Does anyone have any feedback on this type of watercraft?
I figured I'd mount a tripod in the front somehow, I've rigged them on the other boats without much trouble.
Thanks a lot for reading and any help you can offer.
Have a good one.
Tim
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Tim, Generally tripods and mono-pods are not good for photographing from any boat as they magnify vibrations (you won't have much of them). but more importantly to you, the movement (rock and pitch) of the boat. I find that my 70-300mm Tamron, hand held, is the best way to go; increase the shutter speed 1/500 minium, but you can go to several thousand with the 60D without noise. Unless I really want a certain DOF, I also set it for shutter speed priority.
I got an Airis inflatable sit-on-top kayak last year and have found it to be the most solid platform on water I have used so far (sit in kayak, relatively stable model of canoe). Too small for a tripod, I think, and not suitable for an electric or any other motor. Bottom line, I think your pontoon will be solid as a rock (maybe not the best metaphor for lake use) and my limited experience with electric motors suggest very quiet propulsion.
look for outrigger float that you could use on the kayak for extra stabilty .
CPR
Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
Fishing in a kayak seems to me the best choice if one has the physical ability to get in and out. The pontoon is too high in the water and also pontoon boats are very susceptible to being blown around by the slightest breeze.
Here's a website about kayak fishing in general by a guy (Gary Rankel) that lives in my area of Florida. The photos really tell the story well. The double hull ones seem really nice to me.
http://fishingkayaks.us/
I've been using a 9'7" Hobie Mirage Sport (
http://www.hobie.com/kayaks/mirage-sport/ ) for many years. I can peddle, not paddle, so my hands are free to take pictures. In very shallow water, I push one pedal full forward to stow the paddles flush against the hull and use a conventional kayak paddle. I put the camera on a monopod and stabilize with an Op-tech Bino-Cam harness. There's a dry storage area in the hull between my knees. I have a set of wheels to transport from car to water. I've added a camera mount for a GoPro on the gunwale (gunnel). I transport the kayak on my Prius roof and still get 38mpg at 70mph. In my garage, I hoist the kayak with roof mount from the car and stow flush against the garage ceiling. This kayak is wider and thus much more stable than conventional kayaks. I have peddled at 2.4 miles/hr for miles. A friend uses a longer Hobie, but is thinking of downsizing to the shorter Sport because it's much more maneuverable. Being under 10', it does not need an Oregon Invasive Species Prevention permit. The Hobie comes in a few colors. I recommend olive. I have not used the available electric motor nor longer paddles for greater speed. Cons: Have not been able to use a tripod. Expensive and heavier compared with other kayaks.
Hobie Mirage is a great option but you will be sitting higher in the water. Hands free is a real pleasure though. I had and fished from the original one and had to get rid of it because of the weight so transporting could be an issue. Also not much dry storage. I still have my Pungo though and the hatch behind the seat has lots of space, a bulkhead and is completely dry.
Also as Peter mentioned you can get the flippers right up against the hull. Flip the rudder all the way to port or starboard and pump the pedals slightly and you can do a nice slow 360. I loved that boat. Getting old sucks!
SS319 wrote:
You will need a good set of chest waders to keep your feet out of the mud and water.
I agree with the chest waders part. I don't see how you would get into it without getting your feet wet. I'd rather have a boat you can dock and get in and out of easily. This boat looks to be one you'd have to enter from shore and you'd have to get your feet wet. If you have slippery rocks on shore or slippery moss etc, this would be bad with photography equipment in your hands.
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