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Jun 21, 2012 21:25:36   #
Bill gomberg
 
Amen .

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Jun 21, 2012 22:28:49   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
rpavich wrote:
PNagy wrote:
What is the point of your question?

The point of the question is to show that this is some sort of non-issue that's always brought up against manual control...as if I'll fiddle for 2 minutes desparately trying to get the camera set while these shots all around me are being missed...it's hogwash.

PNagy wrote:

The answer is obvious; you are hired to do posed and impromptu shots at a party. As you walk around one table temporarily affords you a great shot. One gust is talking and all others listening. The very next moment one may be looking away, two eating, etc. If you want to capture shots like this that the client will like you do not have time to make manual settings. What is so hard to see about this?


Because possibly only YOU have the problem with fiddling so much with manual settings that these shots are missed...that's all.

Just because you have the problem doesn't mean everyone does...I certainly don't and apparently the other commenter doesn't either.
quote=PNagy What is the point of your question? ... (show quote)


My reflexes could be faster than yours, sir. However, those who espouse full-time use of manual miss shots, not just I. When something happens impromptu the time is that moment. Even if it takes you three seconds to set everything just right, while you are fiddling with the settings the shot is missed. Certain tasks take a certain amount of time to complete, even for those who are very fast at it. If you had to load a gun immediately before shooting a bird, for example, you would shoot very few.
quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is the point of y... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... I'll have to notify Canon, Nikon, etc .... there's no longer a reason for these cameras to have a Manual mode ..... ya see they don't have your knowledge ..... what kind of dummies are designing these things anyway .....
quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is t... (show quote)


Incorrect assumption, Wabbit, with the apparent purpose of trying to embarrass me. I never said there was no need for manual settings. As as matter of fact, I have articulated several times a situation in which it is vital. Since it does take time, it should be used only when necessary. If used always, it leads to lost shots. If, for example, focus is also included in manual, try focussing the lens as the batter is swinging at a pitch. I managed to catch a ball right on the head of a bat once. Do that with manual focus, ok?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=P... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... what a challenge ..... gee, ain't I a stinker .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpa... (show quote)


Oh no... I somehow failed to hit a key properly and guest became gust.

Wabbit: one UHH-er once pretended that he did not need a burst mode to shoot sports. All he needed was his reflexes, anticipation, and timing. You will go half a lifetime single shooting manual and never catch the bat just as it is making contact with the bat. A camera shooting 6 frames per second will allow that to happen every few games. If you shoot the Canon 1DX with a burst rate of 14 per second, you can obtain that shot on command.

As to your being a stinker... you can be.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Of course you realize this means war .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Wabbit, I refuse to participate in that with you, unless you want to do it over a chess board.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you wouldn't have a chance Doc .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


I will travel to see if there is anything behind that comment. How about $300 to the winner?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... daffy wants to hold the bucks .....

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Jun 22, 2012 00:31:29   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
rpavich wrote:
PNagy wrote:
What is the point of your question?

The point of the question is to show that this is some sort of non-issue that's always brought up against manual control...as if I'll fiddle for 2 minutes desparately trying to get the camera set while these shots all around me are being missed...it's hogwash.

PNagy wrote:

The answer is obvious; you are hired to do posed and impromptu shots at a party. As you walk around one table temporarily affords you a great shot. One gust is talking and all others listening. The very next moment one may be looking away, two eating, etc. If you want to capture shots like this that the client will like you do not have time to make manual settings. What is so hard to see about this?


Because possibly only YOU have the problem with fiddling so much with manual settings that these shots are missed...that's all.

Just because you have the problem doesn't mean everyone does...I certainly don't and apparently the other commenter doesn't either.
quote=PNagy What is the point of your question? ... (show quote)


My reflexes could be faster than yours, sir. However, those who espouse full-time use of manual miss shots, not just I. When something happens impromptu the time is that moment. Even if it takes you three seconds to set everything just right, while you are fiddling with the settings the shot is missed. Certain tasks take a certain amount of time to complete, even for those who are very fast at it. If you had to load a gun immediately before shooting a bird, for example, you would shoot very few.
quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is the point of y... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... I'll have to notify Canon, Nikon, etc .... there's no longer a reason for these cameras to have a Manual mode ..... ya see they don't have your knowledge ..... what kind of dummies are designing these things anyway .....
quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is t... (show quote)


Incorrect assumption, Wabbit, with the apparent purpose of trying to embarrass me. I never said there was no need for manual settings. As as matter of fact, I have articulated several times a situation in which it is vital. Since it does take time, it should be used only when necessary. If used always, it leads to lost shots. If, for example, focus is also included in manual, try focussing the lens as the batter is swinging at a pitch. I managed to catch a ball right on the head of a bat once. Do that with manual focus, ok?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=P... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... what a challenge ..... gee, ain't I a stinker .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpa... (show quote)


Oh no... I somehow failed to hit a key properly and guest became gust.

Wabbit: one UHH-er once pretended that he did not need a burst mode to shoot sports. All he needed was his reflexes, anticipation, and timing. You will go half a lifetime single shooting manual and never catch the bat just as it is making contact with the bat. A camera shooting 6 frames per second will allow that to happen every few games. If you shoot the Canon 1DX with a burst rate of 14 per second, you can obtain that shot on command.

As to your being a stinker... you can be.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Of course you realize this means war .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Wabbit, I refuse to participate in that with you, unless you want to do it over a chess board.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you wouldn't have a chance Doc .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


I will travel to see if there is anything behind that comment. How about $300 to the winner?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... daffy wants to hold the bucks .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Enough with the cartoon nonsense. I will play you for $300, loser pays the winner. Depending on where you live it will barely cover my travel expenses. Now onto logistics. Ball in your court, and don't try to wiggle out of this one; you have already informed me that I would not stand a chance.

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Jun 23, 2012 21:42:57   #
budrakey
 
CHILDREN!

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Jun 23, 2012 23:27:16   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
rpavich wrote:
PNagy wrote:
What is the point of your question?

The point of the question is to show that this is some sort of non-issue that's always brought up against manual control...as if I'll fiddle for 2 minutes desparately trying to get the camera set while these shots all around me are being missed...it's hogwash.

PNagy wrote:

The answer is obvious; you are hired to do posed and impromptu shots at a party. As you walk around one table temporarily affords you a great shot. One gust is talking and all others listening. The very next moment one may be looking away, two eating, etc. If you want to capture shots like this that the client will like you do not have time to make manual settings. What is so hard to see about this?


Because possibly only YOU have the problem with fiddling so much with manual settings that these shots are missed...that's all.

Just because you have the problem doesn't mean everyone does...I certainly don't and apparently the other commenter doesn't either.
quote=PNagy What is the point of your question? ... (show quote)


My reflexes could be faster than yours, sir. However, those who espouse full-time use of manual miss shots, not just I. When something happens impromptu the time is that moment. Even if it takes you three seconds to set everything just right, while you are fiddling with the settings the shot is missed. Certain tasks take a certain amount of time to complete, even for those who are very fast at it. If you had to load a gun immediately before shooting a bird, for example, you would shoot very few.
quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is the point of y... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... I'll have to notify Canon, Nikon, etc .... there's no longer a reason for these cameras to have a Manual mode ..... ya see they don't have your knowledge ..... what kind of dummies are designing these things anyway .....
quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is t... (show quote)


Incorrect assumption, Wabbit, with the apparent purpose of trying to embarrass me. I never said there was no need for manual settings. As as matter of fact, I have articulated several times a situation in which it is vital. Since it does take time, it should be used only when necessary. If used always, it leads to lost shots. If, for example, focus is also included in manual, try focussing the lens as the batter is swinging at a pitch. I managed to catch a ball right on the head of a bat once. Do that with manual focus, ok?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=P... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... what a challenge ..... gee, ain't I a stinker .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpa... (show quote)


Oh no... I somehow failed to hit a key properly and guest became gust.

Wabbit: one UHH-er once pretended that he did not need a burst mode to shoot sports. All he needed was his reflexes, anticipation, and timing. You will go half a lifetime single shooting manual and never catch the bat just as it is making contact with the bat. A camera shooting 6 frames per second will allow that to happen every few games. If you shoot the Canon 1DX with a burst rate of 14 per second, you can obtain that shot on command.

As to your being a stinker... you can be.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Of course you realize this means war .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Wabbit, I refuse to participate in that with you, unless you want to do it over a chess board.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you wouldn't have a chance Doc .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


I will travel to see if there is anything behind that comment. How about $300 to the winner?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... daffy wants to hold the bucks .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Enough with the cartoon nonsense. I will play you for $300, loser pays the winner. Depending on where you live it will barely cover my travel expenses. Now onto logistics. Ball in your court, and don't try to wiggle out of this one; you have already informed me that I would not stand a chance.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Daffy's waiting for the money .....

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Jun 23, 2012 23:28:48   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
budrakey wrote:
CHILDREN!


Hey Doc ..... ya jealous .....

Reply
Jun 24, 2012 00:31:55   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
rpavich wrote:
PNagy wrote:
What is the point of your question?

The point of the question is to show that this is some sort of non-issue that's always brought up against manual control...as if I'll fiddle for 2 minutes desparately trying to get the camera set while these shots all around me are being missed...it's hogwash.

PNagy wrote:

The answer is obvious; you are hired to do posed and impromptu shots at a party. As you walk around one table temporarily affords you a great shot. One gust is talking and all others listening. The very next moment one may be looking away, two eating, etc. If you want to capture shots like this that the client will like you do not have time to make manual settings. What is so hard to see about this?


Because possibly only YOU have the problem with fiddling so much with manual settings that these shots are missed...that's all.

Just because you have the problem doesn't mean everyone does...I certainly don't and apparently the other commenter doesn't either.
quote=PNagy What is the point of your question? ... (show quote)


My reflexes could be faster than yours, sir. However, those who espouse full-time use of manual miss shots, not just I. When something happens impromptu the time is that moment. Even if it takes you three seconds to set everything just right, while you are fiddling with the settings the shot is missed. Certain tasks take a certain amount of time to complete, even for those who are very fast at it. If you had to load a gun immediately before shooting a bird, for example, you would shoot very few.
quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is the point of y... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... I'll have to notify Canon, Nikon, etc .... there's no longer a reason for these cameras to have a Manual mode ..... ya see they don't have your knowledge ..... what kind of dummies are designing these things anyway .....
quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is t... (show quote)


Incorrect assumption, Wabbit, with the apparent purpose of trying to embarrass me. I never said there was no need for manual settings. As as matter of fact, I have articulated several times a situation in which it is vital. Since it does take time, it should be used only when necessary. If used always, it leads to lost shots. If, for example, focus is also included in manual, try focussing the lens as the batter is swinging at a pitch. I managed to catch a ball right on the head of a bat once. Do that with manual focus, ok?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=P... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... what a challenge ..... gee, ain't I a stinker .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpa... (show quote)


Oh no... I somehow failed to hit a key properly and guest became gust.

Wabbit: one UHH-er once pretended that he did not need a burst mode to shoot sports. All he needed was his reflexes, anticipation, and timing. You will go half a lifetime single shooting manual and never catch the bat just as it is making contact with the bat. A camera shooting 6 frames per second will allow that to happen every few games. If you shoot the Canon 1DX with a burst rate of 14 per second, you can obtain that shot on command.

As to your being a stinker... you can be.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Of course you realize this means war .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Wabbit, I refuse to participate in that with you, unless you want to do it over a chess board.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you wouldn't have a chance Doc .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


I will travel to see if there is anything behind that comment. How about $300 to the winner?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... daffy wants to hold the bucks .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Enough with the cartoon nonsense. I will play you for $300, loser pays the winner. Depending on where you live it will barely cover my travel expenses. Now onto logistics. Ball in your court, and don't try to wiggle out of this one; you have already informed me that I would not stand a chance.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Daffy's waiting for the money .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Wabbit: The money would be taken care of when I arrived. Since I offered to do the traveling I am the one tang the risk. Just be sure you have your money ready.

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Jun 24, 2012 00:49:47   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of the ball meeting the end of the bat... Assuming that the swing of the bat takes one second and you start shooting as the swing begins at a shutter speed of 1/1000 second at a rate of 10 frames per second. In that second, you will have captured 10/1000 or 1% of the action. How long does the bat stay in contact with the ball and what are your chances of capturing that contact? It's a rhetorical question. I don't know the answer. But think about it.

Credit where credit's due. Thanks Frank R. for the lesson years ago.

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Jun 24, 2012 01:27:38   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Bill41 wrote:
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of the ball meeting the end of the bat... Assuming that the swing of the bat takes one second and you start shooting as the swing begins at a shutter speed of 1/1000 second at a rate of 10 frames per second. In that second, you will have captured 10/1000 or 1% of the action. How long does the bat stay in contact with the ball and what are your chances of capturing that contact? It's a rhetorical question. I don't know the answer. But think about it.

Credit where credit's due. Thanks Frank R. for the lesson years ago.
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of th... (show quote)


I cannot answer your question. In order to do it based on the pictures taken with a fast sports camera, the device would have to provide an even greater frame rate than the new Canon IDX. The ordinary everyday answer to your question, is that the ball stays on the head of the bat for an incredibly short time.

When I was shooting baseball games a few years ago it was with a camera capable only of 6 frames per second. Not every picture has to have the ball on the head of the bat. It is easier, and possibly just as dramatic to capture the image a moment after the ball has already bounced off the bat.

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Jun 24, 2012 01:39:07   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
PNagy wrote:
Bill41 wrote:
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of the ball meeting the end of the bat... Assuming that the swing of the bat takes one second and you start shooting as the swing begins at a shutter speed of 1/1000 second at a rate of 10 frames per second. In that second, you will have captured 10/1000 or 1% of the action. How long does the bat stay in contact with the ball and what are your chances of capturing that contact? It's a rhetorical question. I don't know the answer. But think about it.

Credit where credit's due. Thanks Frank R. for the lesson years ago.
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of th... (show quote)


I cannot answer your question. In order to do it based on the pictures taken with a fast sports camera, the device would have to provide an even greater frame rate than the new Canon IDX. The ordinary everyday answer to your question, is that the ball stays on the head of the bat for an incredibly short time.

When I was shooting baseball games a few years ago it was with a camera capable only of 6 frames per second. Not every picture has to have the ball on the head of the bat. It is easier, and possibly just as dramatic to capture the image a moment after the ball has already bounced off the bat.
quote=Bill41 Just a comment going back to catchin... (show quote)

Good point. I just wanted to mention it because, even under ideal conditions, the example shows that, no matter what we do or how fast we are, we miss at least 99% of what's going on around us.

What's the status of the chess game between you and wabbit? I don't play well, but would love to see a list of the moves between two masters.

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Jun 24, 2012 02:04:15   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Bill41 wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Bill41 wrote:
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of the ball meeting the end of the bat... Assuming that the swing of the bat takes one second and you start shooting as the swing begins at a shutter speed of 1/1000 second at a rate of 10 frames per second. In that second, you will have captured 10/1000 or 1% of the action. How long does the bat stay in contact with the ball and what are your chances of capturing that contact? It's a rhetorical question. I don't know the answer. But think about it.

Credit where credit's due. Thanks Frank R. for the lesson years ago.
Just a comment going back to catching a shot of th... (show quote)


I cannot answer your question. In order to do it based on the pictures taken with a fast sports camera, the device would have to provide an even greater frame rate than the new Canon IDX. The ordinary everyday answer to your question, is that the ball stays on the head of the bat for an incredibly short time.

When I was shooting baseball games a few years ago it was with a camera capable only of 6 frames per second. Not every picture has to have the ball on the head of the bat. It is easier, and possibly just as dramatic to capture the image a moment after the ball has already bounced off the bat.
quote=Bill41 Just a comment going back to catchin... (show quote)

Good point. I just wanted to mention it because, even under ideal conditions, the example shows that, no matter what we do or how fast we are, we miss at least 99% of what's going on around us.

What's the status of the chess game between you and wabbit? I don't play well, but would love to see a list of the moves between two masters.
quote=PNagy quote=Bill41 Just a comment going ba... (show quote)


Wabbit is not seriously negotiating for the game. He wants to involve Daffy Duck to hold the money while we play, but so far he has not agreed to a time and place, even though I offered to be the one to travel.

Speaking of chess, I regret not having been immersed in it as a kid. Whatever the genetic potential one may have for the game, as in most other pursuits, starting earlier assures reaching a higher percentage of that potential. Whenever not involved in photography and writing for pay I work at improving my chess.

Michael de la Maza wrote a great book, RAPID CHESS IMPROVEMENT. It offers a novel way of developing tactical ability, which raised him from a class C player to an expert in two years. In one major tournament he won $10,000 for achieving the highest score of all players under 2,000 (expert level). He is under 2,000 no more.

De la Maza was already an adult and a lover of chess, who nevertheless, lost most of his tournament games. He was deep into adulthood when he started his training via his technique. His degree of improvement is an almost unprecedented amount for an adult player. He thinks anyone with a reasonable intellect could duplicate his achievement.

I had already stumbled onto de la Maza system by myself when I bought his book. My own strategy for improvement, however, missed a key step without which I could not have improved as much as I wanted. I hope to at least duplicate de la Maza's feat when I enter the US Open in 2013.

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Jun 24, 2012 02:21:43   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Remind me to never challenge you to a match. I HATE being checkmated in 15 or fewer moves!

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Jun 24, 2012 02:26:30   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
One time as a teen I worked for a man who was quite intelligent, ambitious and a skilled chess player. He always had a chess board set up in the boat store as when he was in there escaping from his other businesses and his wife he would practice and some times find an opponent. A local never do well came in with a shabby side kick, kicking the tires on the used boat trailers when his side kick saw the chess board. A conversation started and in a couple minutes the boss was playing chess for a $5 bet - well not for long as it only took the scrubby fellow a couple minutes to win. After 3 more games and $15 the boss ask this fellow just where he learned to play so well "Oh I had about 30 yrs where all they would let me do was play chess or checkers 'till my time was up"
Yep the boss was sucked in real slick like.

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Jun 24, 2012 08:46:37   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
PNagy wrote:


I cannot answer your question. [/quote]

Hey Doc ..... what a shock Doc ..... some things never change .....

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Jun 24, 2012 08:57:39   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
PNagy wrote:
rpavich wrote:
PNagy wrote:
What is the point of your question?

The point of the question is to show that this is some sort of non-issue that's always brought up against manual control...as if I'll fiddle for 2 minutes desparately trying to get the camera set while these shots all around me are being missed...it's hogwash.

PNagy wrote:

The answer is obvious; you are hired to do posed and impromptu shots at a party. As you walk around one table temporarily affords you a great shot. One gust is talking and all others listening. The very next moment one may be looking away, two eating, etc. If you want to capture shots like this that the client will like you do not have time to make manual settings. What is so hard to see about this?


Because possibly only YOU have the problem with fiddling so much with manual settings that these shots are missed...that's all.

Just because you have the problem doesn't mean everyone does...I certainly don't and apparently the other commenter doesn't either.
quote=PNagy What is the point of your question? ... (show quote)


My reflexes could be faster than yours, sir. However, those who espouse full-time use of manual miss shots, not just I. When something happens impromptu the time is that moment. Even if it takes you three seconds to set everything just right, while you are fiddling with the settings the shot is missed. Certain tasks take a certain amount of time to complete, even for those who are very fast at it. If you had to load a gun immediately before shooting a bird, for example, you would shoot very few.
quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is the point of y... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... I'll have to notify Canon, Nikon, etc .... there's no longer a reason for these cameras to have a Manual mode ..... ya see they don't have your knowledge ..... what kind of dummies are designing these things anyway .....
quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=PNagy What is t... (show quote)


Incorrect assumption, Wabbit, with the apparent purpose of trying to embarrass me. I never said there was no need for manual settings. As as matter of fact, I have articulated several times a situation in which it is vital. Since it does take time, it should be used only when necessary. If used always, it leads to lost shots. If, for example, focus is also included in manual, try focussing the lens as the batter is swinging at a pitch. I managed to catch a ball right on the head of a bat once. Do that with manual focus, ok?
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpavich quote=P... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... what a challenge ..... gee, ain't I a stinker .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=rpa... (show quote)


Oh no... I somehow failed to hit a key properly and guest became gust.

Wabbit: one UHH-er once pretended that he did not need a burst mode to shoot sports. All he needed was his reflexes, anticipation, and timing. You will go half a lifetime single shooting manual and never catch the bat just as it is making contact with the bat. A camera shooting 6 frames per second will allow that to happen every few games. If you shoot the Canon 1DX with a burst rate of 14 per second, you can obtain that shot on command.

As to your being a stinker... you can be.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... Of course you realize this means war .....
quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wab... (show quote)


Wabbit, I refuse to participate in that with you, unless you want to do it over a chess board.
quote=Wabbit quote=PNagy quote=Wabbit quote=PN... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... you wouldn't have a chance Doc .....
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I will travel to see if there is anything behind that comment. How about $300 to the winner?
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Hey Doc ..... daffy wants to hold the bucks .....
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Enough with the cartoon nonsense. I will play you for $300, loser pays the winner. Depending on where you live it will barely cover my travel expenses. Now onto logistics. Ball in your court, and don't try to wiggle out of this one; you have already informed me that I would not stand a chance.
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Hey Doc ..... Daffy's waiting for the money .....
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Wabbit: The money would be taken care of when I arrived. Since I offered to do the traveling I am the one tang the risk. Just be sure you have your money ready.
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Hey Doc ..... pay up, here's raspberries .....

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