Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

Hi Fellow Hogs... --- Knowing THIS group to be QUICK, as well as INFORMED... What did you think of this Tuesday (5/22/17) morning's treatment by DPR (Digital Photography Review) on 'Shutters' and 'Flash'.??? --- Personally, I learned a LOT. --- PLEASE COMMENT as to Accuracy of DPR-Article; ...and WHY you chose One (name your camera); ...and did NOT CHOOSE another (and the Type of Photography which is your 'Bread & Butter'.)

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

The article is clear and accurate. I never choose a camera based on the type of shutter.

SS319

Well, first, I think DPReview should go ahead and publish this on Monday the 22nd rather than wait until Tuesday the 22nd - long weekend, eh?

I was watching those &%$#@* Tigers last night on NBC, and they played a very slo-mo clip of a play, and you could see the cyclic rate of the DTE electricity as wave after wave of light ran through the video.

In the olden days, when the world was dominated by horizontal shutters, a very fast horse (car, or train) would be longer when running right to left and shorter when running left to right. With a vertical shutter, fast moving objects will lean into the direction they are moving. It is the Photographer's choice whether this leaning is considered a photographic error, or a burst of creativity. Are you going to fight it or use it?

Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

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Hi 'Gene51'... --- Just for the record; Three questions:
1. Do you shoot professionally.?
2. Type 'Pho'grfy' is UR specialty
3. Name Camera used in 2 (above)
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Thanks.

Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

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Hi 'SS319'... --- Just for the record; Three questions:
1. Do you shoot professionally.?
2. Type 'Pho'grfy' is UR specialty
3. Name Camera used in 2 (above)
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Thanks.

SS319

1. DO I shoot professionally - yes, but no! I shoot as part of my Environmental consulting and my photographs are published in our reports, so, in that aspect I do shoot professionally. I do not shoot specifically to sell my pictures as Art, so in that aspect, no, I do not shoot professionally.

2. Specialty: Industrial and landscape for work and pleasure, respectively

3. Camera: Canon T6i (750D). I have never - with this camera - seen shutter effects - most of the shutter problems occurred 40 years ago when I was shooting a Ricoh with a 1/60 flash sync and film.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Tuesday is 5/23/17; in the future. Read article, interesting, have read similar before. But it is mostly information I don't really need. I'm not sure how I am supposed to know what precise type of shutter any of my digital cameras have. I do know exactly what is in my film cameras as you can see the shutter: metal leaf shutter, rubberized-cloth horizontal focal plane shutter (older, slower), metal vertical run focal plane shutter (newer, faster design). In addition to my two main DSLRs, I have one older one that was converted for IR use. That one has a CCD sensor, not a CMOS, so it's shutter might be different as well. My view cameras have really obvious(ly) leaf shutter lens assemblies.

I also have a compact Samsung PnS, and a Bridge-like Kodak PnS, and a Cell Phone, a Samsung Galaxy Note5. I have no idea of the shutter in those, or for that matter any clue to the construction of their lenses.

As without knowing what you have I am not totally sure what you can do with the information other that be aware there can be anomalies or problems with some types of shutters with some applications, say to action / motion and flash / strobe photography. Going back to my earliest film days I was aware of the issues of leaf vs focal plane shutters with flash. In general, the flash stops subject action at the synch speed, while longer exposures increase the exposure of background. The effect of 60Hz AC or similar cycles has been known for ages. What I have learned more recently is some of the anomalies produced by different types of shutters, say to an airplane propeller can produce an interesting effect.

I've never chosen to buy a camera based on the type of shutter it has. Though if I had a number of different types of shutters available in cameras I might choose to use a particular camera for a project based on the shutter if it would affect the results. With a few cameras you can have a choice to use either a FP or Leaf Shutter, say some Medium Format Film cameras have both shutters in the lenses and in the body. Hasselblad 500C/M, Pentax 6x7, Bronica, Maymia, Kowa, etc. I really don't know if any digital systems can give you a camera body shutter and a shutter in the lens. Any UHH'ers have a digital Medium Format camera?

Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

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Hi 'SS319'... --- As an Amateur I've found that by asking specific questions, I then have the option of forming my own opinion; ...as well as expanding my perspectives and knowledge-base. --- THANKS AGAIN.!

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

To answer the other questions inbedded in your DPR question.

1. Do you shoot professionally? Not currently. 1980-83, did museum copy photography.
2. What type of Photography is your specialty? Hobby (today): Landscape, Flower Close-up, Macro, occasional musical Performance Photography.
3. Name Camera used in 2 above? 8x10" Burk & James 12" lens (used in 1). (Today) Pentax K-5, Pentax K-20D, Pentax K-100D (IR converted). Shutter-type-wise, no idea; brand, because I've been using that brand for decades and have many lenses. Canon & Nikon & Sony are fine brands as well.

Sorry I only read and write in standard English. I'm bad with web-ese or text-ese. See my other reply for comments on shutters.

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Isn't it about time to include the link to the article?
Is this it?
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/5816661591/electronic-shutter-rolling-shutter-and-flash-what-you-need-to-know

Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

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Hi 'lamiaceae'... --- THANKS for both the Specifics and your Comments.

Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

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Hi 'GoofyNewfie'... --- Thanks... My 'GOOF'.!!!

Gpa-15 Loc: Tinton Falls, NJ

HI Gang...
Got an appt with my Optamalogist -- See y'all at 1:00pm (E).!!!

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

1. Did, but retired now
2. All of it. I am a generalist - favorite subjects are non-human, unless I am doing surveillance.
3. You asked for it - Nikon Ftn, Alpa 10D, Minolta SRT101, Ricoh rangefinder, Pentax Hv3/Spotmatic, Leica 3F/3G/M3/M4, KoniOmega RapidM, Rollieflex, Mamiya C3300, Mamiya RB67, Pentacon6, Horseman 985, Speed Graphic (several models), Cambo 4x5, SinarP 4x5, Deardoff 8x10, Linhof 4x5, NIkon D100, D200, D300S. D700, D3S, and small assortment of Sony, Nikon.Canon and Fuji advanced point and shoots. Once retired, D800.

How about yourself -

1. Do you shoot professionally.?
2. Type 'Pho'grfy' is UR specialty
3. Name Camera used in 2 (above)
4. Why are you asking?

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Actually, you did right by not doing a link in the first post.
It would doom it to the "Links and Resources" section, unless that is where you wanted it to go.
Added later in the thread, it seems to be overlooked.

The article looks pretty accurate and gave even a good explanation to the "Ficker" issue I've been experiencing and why I borrowed a couple of Nikon D500s to shoot graduation.
Would be interested to see how Nikon (and Canon) figured out how to detect and remedy that situation.