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Aug 19, 2017 01:05:12   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
You're only fooling yourself thinking as you are. The damage does not always show right away but will later. Quit arguing with me about it and if you think you are so right consult a professional like a doctor or professional baseball trainer or coach. You tink the teams weren't fixed; what team didn't have the coaches kid on it? You think that all happened by draft and luck?


So what if the coach's kid is on it? Why do you think the coach is coaching anyway? It's one of the perks of being the coach. You can consult however many orthopedic doctors you want to consult, but if you want to be competitive in baseball, you've gotta have a curveball at 13. I also don't know of any of my friends who developed arm problems because they threw curve balls when they were 13. I don't care what a doctor might say....they'll be extremely conservative. All I know is what I know from experience and from what the coaches who worked with kids knew from experience.

Talk to any pitcher who's gone on to pitch in college or professional baseball and ask them when they started to throw a curve ball.

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Aug 19, 2017 12:35:30   #
whitewolfowner
 
SteveR wrote:
So what if the coach's kid is on it? Why do you think the coach is coaching anyway? It's one of the perks of being the coach. You can consult however many orthopedic doctors you want to consult, but if you want to be competitive in baseball, you've gotta have a curveball at 13. I also don't know of any of my friends who developed arm problems because they threw curve balls when they were 13. I don't care what a doctor might say....they'll be extremely conservative. All I know is what I know from experience and from what the coaches who worked with kids knew from experience.

Talk to any pitcher who's gone on to pitch in college or professional baseball and ask them when they started to throw a curve ball.
So what if the coach's kid is on it? Why do you t... (show quote)




I have, know many and they don't pitch anymore either. You absolutely have no idea what you are talking about and obviously are part of the idiots that are out there ruining these kids arms. Most who pitch in college and go on to play past there never pitched in little league because those that did pitch in little league can't pitch anymore because idiots like you ruined their arms. Your head is so far up your glory butt for your yourself you have no compassion nor do you give a damn about these kids. You are part of the problem.

And you are totally wrong about being competitive at 13 without a curve ball. Changing speeds at that age is way more effective than any junk pitchers ever will be. Only shows how little to nothing you know about the game. Keep embarrassing yourself and show the hogg what an idiot and child abuser you really are.

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Aug 20, 2017 20:31:07   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I just checked with my in-laws who have two boys 18 and older who are pitchers. I asked at what age they started throwing curves. They started when they were 13 because it wasn't recommended to throw them before that age. They play on traveling teams, and the 18 year old was just MVP in an important tournament.

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Aug 20, 2017 22:34:21   #
whitewolfowner
 
SteveR wrote:
I just checked with my in-laws who have two boys 18 and older who are pitchers. I asked at what age they started throwing curves. They started when they were 13 because it wasn't recommended to throw them before that age. They play on traveling teams, and the 18 year old was just MVP in an important tournament.




Give them a few years and see how they do. I have seen some young men ready as early as 15, but never 13. Let's see how much you do really know a pitching.

Where should a pitcher have his glove hand as he is delivering the ball to the plate all the way though his follow through and why?

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Aug 20, 2017 23:26:26   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Give them a few years and see how they do. I have seen some young men ready as early as 15, but never 13. Let's see how much you do really know a pitching.

Where should a pitcher have his glove hand as he is delivering the ball to the plate all the way though his follow through and why?


I don't know what kind of baseball you're involved with but I doubt that it's competitive baseball.

Here's a clip from the Junior League World Series, Ages 12-14. Sure looks like a curve ball to me.

http://twitter.com/LittleLeague/status/899346560395431939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwgntv.com%2F2017%2F08%2F20%2Fplayer-flips-over-outfield-fence-to-make-epic-catch-at-junior-league-world-series%2F

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Aug 21, 2017 02:53:03   #
whitewolfowner
 
SteveR wrote:
I don't know what kind of baseball you're involved with but I doubt that it's competitive baseball.

Here's a clip from the Junior League World Series, Ages 12-14. Sure looks like a curve ball to me.

http://twitter.com/LittleLeague/status/899346560395431939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwgntv.com%2F2017%2F08%2F20%2Fplayer-flips-over-outfield-fence-to-make-epic-catch-at-junior-league-world-series%2F



I can see that you couldn't answer the question and you question the type of baseball I've been involved in! How about every level up to professional. And of course they have the kids throwing curve balls; it's done nation wide; all for the glory of the their selfish fathers and idiots like you. Give it up, you've proven your status to be another ignorant idiot that thinks he knows the game.

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Aug 21, 2017 12:34:00   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
I can see that you couldn't answer the question and you question the type of baseball I've been involved in! How about every level up to professional. And of course they have the kids throwing curve balls; it's done nation wide; all for the glory of the their selfish fathers and idiots like you. Give it up, you've proven your status to be another ignorant idiot that thinks he knows the game.


I can't take somebody seriously who goes about throwing invectives at somebody he disagrees with. As far as knowing the answer to your question....I don't know because I wasn't a pitcher. I was a catcher. One thing I do know is that most pitchers are done playing baseball by the time they're 18. The competitive time of their baseball life is before they graduate from high school. Have a nice life in your protected little world.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:02:12   #
whitewolfowner
 
SteveR wrote:
I can't take somebody seriously who goes about throwing invectives at somebody he disagrees with. As far as knowing the answer to your question....I don't know because I wasn't a pitcher. I was a catcher. One thing I do know is that most pitchers are done playing baseball by the time they're 18. The competitive time of their baseball life is before they graduate from high school. Have a nice life in your protected little world.




If you were a catcher you'd know the answer because it was your job to alert the pitcher if he was straying away from any of his form. Any catcher, much passed juniors, knows his pitchers and when they are throwing in form or not. You have proven to be a rank amateur that knows little beyond what a little leaguer knows about the game trying to sound like a big know it all. I have gotten frustrated with you and tried to let you know it; first politely but when you still were too ignorant to catch on and back off and continued to show your lack of knowledge at all of the game and kept throwing BS at me, so I had to get a little more obvious with you. Now you are trying to hide your ignorance hiding behind a skirt argument accusing me of being "invective". You know what; stupid is as stupid does, and sometimes a totally ignorant one need a wake up call. This discussion has nothing to do with opinion, but being totally wrong and too pompous to admit it. As I said several threads ago, quit showing everyone how ignorant you really are and trying to act like you know what you are talking about. You want to know why so many are done with baseball at 18; it's because they had arms ruined by know it alls like you when they were younger and it finally caught with them.

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Sep 10, 2017 10:05:36   #
PinOakEO Loc: NA
 
PinOakEO wrote:
How do you Cub fans feel this year?

How do the NNY - Colo - Hou - Wash - LA - SF - Tex fans feel?

Notice all the empty seats in stadiums?

Notice all the injuries to pitchers & position players in 2016-7?

Notice all the long HR's? High scores?

Has the makeup of baseballs changed?

Just wondering about the last 10 years!

Notice rule changes at home plate & 2nd base?


How do the LAD fans feel? Hitting & pitching going \\\\\\\\\\\\.

LAW of Averages!

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Sep 10, 2017 11:54:08   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Seven years ago at Lambeau Field the price of a beer (Millers only) was $7.00.

Bet it's close to $10.00 now.

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