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May 19, 2017 14:26:44   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Your first and fourth sentences suggest you should decline this honor.

Could not agree more. It's like landing on a distant planet.

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May 19, 2017 14:28:30   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The bride (friend) might be "laid back" now, but she won't be if the pictures don't meet her expectations and the wedding day is past forever.
You seem intent on doing this. Good luck, I hope everything goes well.


Ah, an observer of human nature.

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May 19, 2017 14:34:15   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
Best advice: bribe a hospital official to admit you to an isolation unit from Friday until the following Monday. Wedding photography is a grim undertaking.


OMG! Laughing at this. With me and my luck, I am liable to get myself into a situation that would literally put me in an ER!! I have been known to trip and fall a few times. LOLJust me and my clumsiness!! Last spring my husband and I were camping in Georgia. I packed my camera, heavy lens, tripod, extra batteries, bottled waters, snacks, and a jacket. into a backpack, jumped on my bike to go out and take pictures around the lake, and park. My bag was so heavy, it leaned to one side and I went down with the backpack!! haha. I was more concerned about my camera, of course. Thankfully I, and my equipment was ok!! But, my family got a huge laugh, after they made sure I was alright.

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May 19, 2017 14:37:02   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
ole sarg wrote:
Shoot both raw and jpeg. Otherwise you will spend the next 5 years processing what you shot!

this raw business for the most part is a bunch of hooey!

As for equipment what you have is fine. Shot a wedding with just a 50mm and after the prints were made got numerous requests to shoot others but passed.

Look at some old wedding albums and you will know the standard poses to shoot. Otherwise be creative!

Raw is not a bunch of hooey, but unnecessary for many wedding images.

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May 19, 2017 14:38:14   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Ignore the naysayers and just go do it. You are going to make mistakes and have some nerves, but no one is going to die if you miss a shot. It's a second marriage and anything you shoot will be better than cell phones. Besides, anybody married more than 5 years hasn't looked at their wedding book in 4 and probably can't recall where the book is stored. Better a family member who will forgive you than a paying customer who will always blame you for the littlest mistake, if not want to sue you.

My dad moonlighted as a wedding photog when I was a teen. Was quite popular and had a wedding almost every weekend in season.
What I learned assisting him... Have a backup camera, and flash. Extra batteries. and most critical, leave nothing to memory. Write it all down. Shot list, shot list, shot list. and gear check list. Extra SD cards and check that you have one loaded. We had to re-stage several shots at his first wedding ever (which was a family member) because first rack of film didn't thread properly. He survived and went on to be the family go to as well as shoot several referrals professionally. He only worked by word of mouth.

It wouldn't hurt to round up a couple of friends and practice in your backyard with flash outdoors. Also, you might be surprised at the distracting backgrounds you see. Will make you more ready when posing for the real deal. Worst part for you will be that you are working and not getting to enjoy the event of a favorite niece. You will be thinking ahead and positioning for next shot the whole day and almost as tired as the bride at days end.

Good luck and try to enjoy the experience!
Ignore the naysayers and just go do it. You are g... (show quote)


And then when the wedding is over, go back and look at what the naysayers warned you about.

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May 19, 2017 14:39:25   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
gvarner wrote:
I'd go with a "snoot" on the flash to spread the light on fill flash. It limits the range so a large group might require direct flash. For TTL flash work, start with Manual mode, ISO 400, f4, and 1/200. Set your camera to allow high speed sync so,you can go to high shutter speeds to darken the ambient light. This is a great technique indoors or out. The TTL flash will control exposure on the subject as you change the other settings. A higher ISO can help extend the range of the flash and of course a higher f stop for increased DoF. I like to zoom in for candids in groups like this. Don't have to worry much about camera shake.
I'd go with a "snoot" on the flash to sp... (show quote)


WHAT???

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May 19, 2017 14:40:24   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
OviedoPhotos wrote:
I would decline the honor and pay for a pro.


I would if it were not so expensive!! LOL Plus, I told her I would, I have made my commitment. But I "will" remind her many, many, more times that "she" might want to hire a Pro! As I have "never" shot a wedding, nor will I be booking any in the future. Not my thing!!

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May 19, 2017 14:43:03   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
And then when the wedding is over, go back and look at what the naysayers warned you about.


Thanks, I plan to do just what you suggested!! great advice!!

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May 19, 2017 14:43:53   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
Raw is not a bunch of hooey, but unnecessary for many wedding images.



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May 19, 2017 14:49:26   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
sirlensalot wrote:
Since your friend has expressed confidence in your work and style, you are ready for a wedding. If you were to buy a second lens the 24-105, you would be good. If you are renting would go for the 24-70/2.8. Since it is informal, your Mk IV is enough. Would not worry about a back up DSLR unless you have one already, but it is always a good idea. You can always throw a P&S in your bag just in case. Flash? one on camera flash will work in most cases. Just use bounce, or learn to use FEC. I would immerse myself into youtube. There are tons of great videos on weddings. Can't beat the price. Main thing to remember is that you are the storyteller. Simplify it -
Chapter 1 - prepare gear- Camera(s), lenses, extra batteries, charger, flashes, extra memory card(s), extra batteries for flashes, possibly a tripod for formal shots or if shooting from back of church or do you need one?
Chapter 2 - meet with B&G, gather notes of as many details that you think you need, how will wedding flow and from and to different locations if applicable. At his point you need a "shot sheet" (many versions are downloadable free on the net). Besides some of the standard shots, what do B&G have in mind? This may expose some limitations as a first time photographer. Deal with it. If you want to do the best you can, you overcome the obstacles. If you cannot, let them know at this point and maybe perform as a second shooter to a pro, but you can do this. Shoot everyone at the event. Easier to delete too many than to explain ones you missed afterwards.
Chapter 3. - Get ready shots - B&G - This is the brides day - groom is just a figurehead, but you know this. lol
Chapter 4. Arrival at church, the ceremony, any formal shots either before or after ceremony, the exit of B&G from church. (modify as needed)
Chapter 5, The reception - B&G entry, toasts, first dance, Father/Mother dances with B&G - maybe grandparents - shoot them all. Throwing of bouquet,and removing garter, dancing by guests, Table shots of guests, lots of candid shots, B&G leaving reception.
Chapter 6 - Post-processing. Send a few shots to the phones of the B&G as soon as possible. Editing - Suggest shooting everything in RAW. Go through shots and delete any you are not happy with. Decide how many final shots you want to retouch. Generally 100-150 is a good place to go. You may want to convert rest to Jpegs and put on a separate flash drive or DVD for your friend. Are you planning for prints and an album or are you just giving images to B&G and let them decide which ones if any they want printed. Maybe you would like to work on this with them?
Final chapter - pour yourself a tall glass of your favorite refreshment, kick off your shoes and rejoice in your first effort, you deserve it!

Although not inclusive, hopefully this will get you started. There is a ton of free info out there on weddings. Take advantage of it. Maybe take B&G out for an informal shoot a couple of weeks before the wedding. Shoot in the sun, in the shade,and indoors. Get creative on this. Get comfortable doing what you do. Have fun.
You got this!!
Since your friend has expressed confidence in your... (show quote)


Wow, means a lot having you take the time to offer some great advice. I will be printing this off and making notecards from them. Thanks so much. Unfortunately, I am in Texas and want see the B&G until the day before. But, I will be practicing a lot before then. I am sure I can find a couple that would love a free photo shoot!

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May 19, 2017 14:54:42   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
G8keypr wrote:
you say the occasion is very informal and very casual, you have obviously taken some great pictures of other family outing, or they wouldn't be asking you, so it might help if you treat it like your other family outing, only focus on the happy couple, if nothing else it might help you to relax. It sounds like you are fairly close to your niece so you need to be aware you are going to be capturing her wedding on film so you won't have time to really experience and enjoy the moments, if it were me and I could afford to I would hire a photographer as a wedding present, that way I could really experience the event, just food for thought.
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Thanks. I have thought about doing just that. The trip is costing me a lot as it is. Airfare, hotel, etc. So, it would have to be a really cheap photographer, haha, and if that is the case, then I am sure I'd be better off taking them myself. But one idea I have entertained, is seeing if the rest of the Aunts want to go in with me and make this a wedding gift to her. If we all pitch in, it might just be affordable. I am sure, a good photographer would set me back "way" more than I can afford on my own. Thanks for your afvice

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May 19, 2017 14:55:23   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
texaseve wrote:
My advice would be to rent or borrow a macro lens (100mm), a bracket to get flash up off the camera, and a second body if you don't have one. I agree with looking at Pinterest for modern ideas of wedding photos. That would be my first place to look. Get there early to take some test shots and figure out lighting and where you can be to get good angles. Remember there will be those with their cell phones out blocking your view.



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May 19, 2017 15:01:45   #
Pilot
 
I'm definately not a professional photographer, had never shot a wedding and two weeks ago I was faced with the same situation you are. The couple gave me some vague ideas of what they wanted and that was all. After reading a few articles on wedding photography I decided to have a go at it. Using a Canon EOS 80D, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II USM and a Canon 430EX II Speedlite Flash I shot the rehearsal a day before the wedding. Decided against using the 70-200 lens for the actual wedding; a little heavy (for me) and a tri or monopod wasn't feasable. I used the 80D with a Tamron 16-300 f/3.5-6.3 VC PZD Macro and the Speedlite for the actual ceremony. For the reception I kept the same camera-flash setup but changed to the Canon 16-35 f/2.8 L II USM. Now wish I had used the Tamron for the reception. After a week and half of culling out the bad shots and doing minimal post processing on the remainder, I presented the newlyweds with a thumb drive containing 348 pictures, all free of charge. They can select what they like and have printed as many as they want. Now, would I do it again. Sure, if it was an informal affair like this one was. A formal wedding? Nah, I'll leave those to the pros!

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May 19, 2017 15:03:31   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
There are a lot of different answers to your questions. Mine are not the final word. But. . .

I would mount the 24-105. My usual goto lens for events like this is an 18-200. The 24-105 is the better range. The 70-200 will not let you broaden the shot for groups unless you stand back. In any event I've shot, I find myself shooting a table of folk and then almost immediately going for a closeup of one person or a two person conversation. The 105 will handle that situation, the 70 is just too tight. (If you have to back off, someone will almost certainly, though inadvertently, get in the way.)

One of the things I like about my a6300 is that I can set it to shoot silently. I can shoot in burst mode and often do for something like an event--not the high-speed 11fps but the middle setting of about 6fps. That fraction of a second will sometimes capture a fleeting expression that is priceless. I don't know the Canon lineup. Nikon has not figured out how to quiet the mirror. In fact both of them have dropped the ball for mirrorless.

Use a flash, but put some light modifier on it. This can be a small camera mount softbox, a Gary Fong Lightsphere, or a Light Genius. Anything that will soften the light, but better if it also emulates bounce flash. Choose your flash exposure to provide fill light, not the main light. You don't want to overcome the sun, just provide definition and soften shadows. This will soften the shadows to overcome the problem of overhead sun. (I've come to appreciate the Light Genius, but even a white handkerchief is helpful.) I used the GF lightsphere for years, but in the last six months have been using the Light Genius and like it better.

Go over the ceremony with the bride and groom. Create a shooting script. Try to know what and where your next shot is. In the thick of the action, it is very easy to get lost. Of course, make sure you have enough space on your memory card. Better yet, copy all the older images onto your computer, then reformat the card. Changing a card as the shot you were anticipating disappears is very frustrating. Having one fail is even more so. Same with batteries. Make sure they are fully charged--and bring a spare. Also, spares for the flash.

Make sure to focus on the eyes. I like to use shallow depth of field to keep viewer attention on the subject I want them to see.

Don't be shy about "'chimping". Sure, the pros and the purists will poo-poo that. But there is no better way to be sure you are actually getting something worthwhile.

A week or more before the event, set your rig up, get a couple volunteers to stand in and try it, then practice a little, especially the main poses.

I haven't shot a wedding in many years--though it helped pay the bills during grad school--so there are surely many pros out there with better advice. I also am no longer shooting Canick cameras, so YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)

Good luck.
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Thank you so much! This is why I love this forum. So many people take the time to help. It means a lot. I take "everything" into consideration, and read and think about everyones response. Sounds like you still know a thing or two about shooting weddings!

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May 19, 2017 15:04:22   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
wapiti wrote:

My advice? Don't do it.


Tempting!! Still pondering the thought! :)

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