New Sigma 100-400
May 18, 2017 08:02:29 #
May 18, 2017 08:36:58 #
Jim Bob wrote:
Anybody had an opportunity to use this lens? How does it perform?
I understand the lite weight and compact design - but f6.3 and no collar - what were they thinking ????
IMO, the f6.3 lends itself more to full frame than crop frame.
No, I do not have one .....
May 18, 2017 10:48:09 #
imagemeister wrote:
I understand the lite weight and compact design - but f6.3 and no collar - what were they thinking ????
IMO, the f6.3 lends itself more to full frame than crop frame.
No, I do not have one .....
IMO, the f6.3 lends itself more to full frame than crop frame.
No, I do not have one .....
It works fine on both formats - but I agree, no tripod collar means they intend this lightweight lens to be used hand-held. And no, I don't have one either.
May 18, 2017 10:48:12 #
imagemeister wrote:
I understand the lite weight and compact design - but f6.3 and no collar - what were they thinking ????
IMO, the f6.3 lends itself more to full frame than crop frame.
No, I do not have one .....
IMO, the f6.3 lends itself more to full frame than crop frame.
No, I do not have one .....
You are so right. I think it weighs in at about two and a half pounds and is a full frame lens but I stand to be corrected. But no tripod collar? Just plain dumb in my opinion.
May 18, 2017 10:49:46 #
Gene51 wrote:
It works fine on both formats - but I agree, no tripod collar means they intend this lightweight lens to be used hand-held. And no, I don't have one either.
Yeah. But why essentially take away the tripod option forcing camera attachment? Guess to lessen weight. But still...
May 18, 2017 10:59:47 #
Jim Bob wrote:
Yeah. But why essentially take away the tripod option forcing camera attachment? Guess to lessen weight. But still...
As I suggested, I guess they figured most people will use it hand-held. I just spent 3 hours at NY's Central Park, the most popular three lenses, by far, were the Canon 400 F5.6, the Canon 100-400 F5.6 and the Tamron G2. Probably saw at least 20 photographers. Only one had a tripod, which had an 80D and a 500mmF4. All the others were hand held. I am not sure that such a light lens, hell, its only 8 oz heavier than my 14-24 F2.8, needs a lens collar.
May 18, 2017 11:06:50 #
Gene51 wrote:
As I suggested, I guess they figured most people will use it hand-held. I just spent 3 hours at NY's Central Park, the most popular three lenses, by far, were the Canon 400 F5.6, the Canon 100-400 F5.6 and the Tamron G2. Probably saw at least 20 photographers. Only one had a tripod, which had an 80D and a 500mmF4. All the others were hand held. I am not sure that such a light lens, hell, its only 8 oz heavier than my 14-24 F2.8, needs a lens collar.
You may be right. But it sure would be nice to have that option. For example, I find that I can hand hold the Nikon 200-500 much better than I can the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. Go figure. I assume the Nikon's stabilization is better but quite frankly, I don't know.
May 18, 2017 12:48:30 #
Jim Bob wrote:
You are so right. I think it weighs in at about two and a half pounds and is a full frame lens but I stand to be corrected. But no tripod collar? Just plain dumb in my opinion.
There is no tripod collar because Sigma's Designers found one was not necessary for the lens to work with DSLRs. This is from a Sigma Rep I spoke to last week.
May 18, 2017 12:54:31 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There is no tripod collar because Sigma's Designers found one was not necessary for the lens to work with DSLRs. This is from a Sigma Rep I spoke to last week.
Nice vague and self-serving answer if you ask me. I would be wiling to wager that at 400mm some folks will be wishing there was one rather than allowing it to hang off a camera attached to a tripod. But thanks for your "straight from the horse's mouth" reply.
May 18, 2017 13:19:45 #
Jim Bob wrote:
You may be right. But it sure would be nice to have that option. For example, I find that I can hand hold the Nikon 200-500 much better than I can the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. Go figure. I assume the Nikon's stabilization is better but quite frankly, I don't know.
As I have alluded to before, it is not just a matter of having a sharp image because of the OS/IS - it is also a matter of pointing accuracy for composition and AF accuracy ! And shooting hand held at 400mm on crop frame without support of some kind is sheer folly in my book ! There are options for not having a collar - but NONE are as good as having a collar !
May 18, 2017 13:24:01 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There is no tripod collar because Sigma's Designers found one was not necessary for the lens to work with DSLRs. This is from a Sigma Rep I spoke to last week.
OBVIOUSLY !
May 18, 2017 13:29:14 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There is no tripod collar because Sigma's Designers found one was not necessary for the lens to work with DSLRs. This is from a Sigma Rep I spoke to last week.
the real problem with lack of collar will arise when a TC is attached to this lens. This lens is designed to work with the 1.4 TC created for the 120-300 and 150-600 lenses
May 18, 2017 13:30:23 #
imagemeister wrote:
As I have alluded to before, it is not just a matter of having a sharp image because of the OS/IS - it is also a matter of pointing accuracy for composition and AF accuracy ! And shooting hand held at 400mm on crop frame without support of some kind is sheer folly in my book ! There are options for not having a collar - but NONE are as good as having a collar !
I'm with you 100%. On a crop frame (and perhaps to some degree on full frame) I honestly believe shooting hand-held at 400mm will become a challenge to consistently achieving maximum image quality. I'm not sure what the Canon 100-400L version 1 weighs (maybe 3 lbs), but I can say that I experienced dramatic improvement with that lens mounted on a tripod. But that's just me.
May 18, 2017 13:30:42 #
travisdeland wrote:
the real problem with lack of collar will arise when a TC is attached to this lens. This lens is designed to work with the 1.4 TC created for the 120-300 and 150-600 lenses
Good point.
May 18, 2017 14:12:28 #
imagemeister wrote:
As I have alluded to before, it is not just a matter of having a sharp image because of the OS/IS - it is also a matter of pointing accuracy for composition and AF accuracy ! And shooting hand held at 400mm on crop frame without support of some kind is sheer folly in my book ! There are options for not having a collar - but NONE are as good as having a collar !
I'm also with you on this point-the keeper rate of shooting my 400L from a tripod, vs. handheld is definitely higher. I was VERY interested in the 100-400 Sig when it was first announced, especially when I learned it was compatible with the 1.4TC (for the 150-600)that I already owned-the lack of tripod support has dampened my enthusiasm for the lens considerably. Guess at this point, I'll wait until the GSM Photo Summit in November, where I can borrow one from the Sigma rep to try, before making the decision to buy. Who knows, Sigma may realize they've stepped on their d*%k with the their golf cleats, and develop a solution by then.
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