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May 16, 2017 12:55:57   #
DMF
 
Just purchased new Nikon 80-400 lens along with two filters, Promaster protection and CPL. The filters are very thin, the filter almost disappears when screwed onto the lens. I become concerned if filter is tightened very little of the filter is extended beyond the end of the lens to hold for removal. I am confident others have experienced the same problem, any ideas?
Doug

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May 16, 2017 13:17:25   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
There are wrenches specifically designed to remove filters. I'd look for one on either B and H or Amazon. Get one that fits the dia. of your filter. They are made of plastic. So, that reduces the possibility of damaging any camera parts. You'll need one that fits a 77mm diam. filter. Just do a google search for

filter wrench for 77mm filter

You've made a good choice in providing the front element with a degree of protection. However, there are a few times when you may want to leave the filters off completely. The CPL should work rather nicely, considering the smaller angle of view that lens has.
--Bob

DMF wrote:
Just purchased new Nikon 80-400 lens along with two filters, Promaster protection and CPL. The filters are very thin, the filter almost disappears when screwed onto the lens. I become concerned if filter is tightened very little of the filter is extended beyond the end of the lens to hold for removal. I am confident others have experienced the same problem, any ideas?
Doug

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May 16, 2017 13:19:39   #
DMF
 
Great news, thanks Bob, will find one today. Doug

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May 16, 2017 13:22:21   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob

DMF wrote:
Great news, thanks Bob, will find one today. Doug

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May 16, 2017 13:43:06   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Why did you get such thin filters since the lens is not a wide angle?

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May 16, 2017 13:45:51   #
DMF
 
Purchased with lens from Hunts Photo. I have purchased filters recently for other lens, thin did not present a problem. Doug

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May 17, 2017 06:53:50   #
cthahn
 
There is not much you can do.

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May 17, 2017 08:55:07   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Always use the lens hood. I started leaving my UV off.

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May 17, 2017 08:55:36   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
SteveR wrote:
Why did you get such thin filters since the lens is not a wide angle?

Seems like the smart thing to do as it could ALSO be used on one of several wide angle options. Or if one has money to throw around, just get a set for every lens owned.

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May 17, 2017 11:44:35   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
I removed all filters and bought hoods for each lens. In rare cases I'll use a polarized filter on my Sigma 500mm

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May 17, 2017 16:13:24   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
DMF wrote:
J...any ideas?


Yes. Carefully remove the filters and use them under your iced tea glass, to protect your nice, wooden coffee table from condensation... or return them for a refund if you can.

Promaster doesn't actually make their filters.... or anything else, for that matter. They are like Vivitar, Polaroid and so forth.... they just have their name imprinted of stuff they buy from a manufacturer.

Most Promaster filters seem to be relabeled Hoya... one of Hoya's lower quality lines such as their "Pro 1" multi-coated or "Alpha" single and uncoated.

It makes little to no sense to put cheap, unnecessary filters in front of a $2300 lens, likely spoiling a fine lens' potential image quality.

"Protection" filters serve no actual purpose.... Particularly on a telephoto with a nice, deep hood for protection, such as the 80-400mm uses. Lens hoods don't screw up images, the way filters do. Besides, when using a filter it's even more important to use a hood... to protect that thin glass filter!

I also can't recall the last time I used a circular polarizer on a telephoto lens. Usually can't afford the one to two stops of light lost to the filter. Plus it's a pain in the arse to have to remove the hood to adjust the filter every time I switch the lens from portrait to landscape orientation, then back.

So, my advice is simply to not use those filters on that lens.

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May 17, 2017 16:34:23   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I haven't used a polarizer on a telephoto lens in 30 years. I tried it when I was younger.

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May 17, 2017 20:01:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rmalarz wrote:
There are wrenches specifically designed to remove filters. I'd look for one on either B and H or Amazon. Get one that fits the dia. of your filter. They are made of plastic. So, that reduces the possibility of damaging any camera parts. You'll need one that fits a 77mm diam. filter. Just do a google search for

filter wrench for 77mm filter

You've made a good choice in providing the front element with a degree of protection. However, there are a few times when you may want to leave the filters off completely. The CPL should work rather nicely, considering the smaller angle of view that lens has.
--Bob
There are wrenches specifically designed to remove... (show quote)



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May 18, 2017 01:53:21   #
Dan De Lion Loc: Montana
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Yes. Carefully remove the filters and use them under your iced tea glass, to protect your nice, wooden coffee table from condensation... or return them for a refund if you can.

Promaster doesn't actually make their filters.... or anything else, for that matter. They are like Vivitar, Polaroid and so forth.... they just have their name imprinted of stuff they buy from a manufacturer.

Most Promaster filters seem to be relabeled Hoya... one of Hoya's lower quality lines such as their "Pro 1" multi-coated or "Alpha" single and uncoated.

It makes little to no sense to put cheap, unnecessary filters in front of a $2300 lens, likely spoiling a fine lens' potential image quality.

"Protection" filters serve no actual purpose.... Particularly on a telephoto with a nice, deep hood for protection, such as the 80-400mm uses. Lens hoods don't screw up images, the way filters do. Besides, when using a filter it's even more important to use a hood... to protect that thin glass filter!

I also can't recall the last time I used a circular polarizer on a telephoto lens. Usually can't afford the one to two stops of light lost to the filter. Plus it's a pain in the arse to have to remove the hood to adjust the filter every time I switch the lens from portrait to landscape orientation, then back.

So, my advice is simply to not use those filters on that lens.
Yes. Carefully remove the filters and use them und... (show quote)


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Others disagree. I have to clean the UV filters on my lenses fairly often. I would hate to have to do that to the front element of lenses. It comes down to what kind of shooting and how much shooting you do but, you can't go wrong by using both a UV filter and hood.

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May 18, 2017 07:46:06   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
DMF wrote:
Just purchased new Nikon 80-400 lens along with two filters, Promaster protection and CPL. The filters are very thin, the filter almost disappears when screwed onto the lens. I become concerned if filter is tightened very little of the filter is extended beyond the end of the lens to hold for removal. I am confident others have experienced the same problem, any ideas?
Doug


I would not use the protection filter. But, would by a better quality CPL I use a CPL on my 80-400 for landscapes and when I want to decrease reflections on the water

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