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May 14, 2017 08:04:18   #
tarsen Loc: Minneapolis MN
 
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.


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May 14, 2017 08:10:40   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
A mono pod with feet like the Sirui. This one is one of their lighter units.

https://www.amazon.com/Sirui-SUP204SR-Photo-Video-Monopod/dp/B00I5NKCNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1494763756&sr=1-1&keywords=monopod&refinements=p_89%3ASirui

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May 14, 2017 08:14:23   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
tarsen wrote:
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.


What ISO did you use? Could you have increased the ISO to allow you to use a faster shutter speed?

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May 14, 2017 08:15:31   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
Does the lens have any sort of VR?

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May 14, 2017 08:18:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tarsen wrote:
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.


As others have said, a higher ISO would have helped. The recommended shutter speed for that focal length would be 1/200. Faster is better.

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May 14, 2017 08:20:37   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
tarsen wrote:
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.


I would probably tried to get the shutter speed up to 500, or at least 250, a mono pod might have helped, if you were on solid ground, Bob

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May 14, 2017 08:41:52   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
If that camera allows you to set the ISO to automatic, then use that setting. Then, using Manual mode, set your shutter speed to 1/500, which would be needed with that telephoto, especially if there is no image stabilizer in the lens. If you use a monopod you might be able to go slower. Set your aperture to 2.8, and shoot away. If you do not have enough light for the highest ISO it will signal you. At high ISO's your images may be a little noisy, but they won't be shaky.

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May 14, 2017 10:04:36   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tarsen wrote:
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.


Higher ISO for a faster shutter speed - ideally faster than 1/300 because of the crop factor, vibration reduction on the lens, proper breathing (breathe normally and press shutter at the end of an exhale, like snipers are trained to do), careful attention to technique, and a glass of cognac BEFORE the event will all help calm things down. Coffee, energy drinks, matcha, and other caffeinated beverages should be avoided at all costs.

A monopod may help a little, especially if you can brace it against something solid. You may still get some lateral movement. Tripod is better, but not likely permitted for safety reasons.

Don't underestimate the value of stabilization. With good technique you can shoot at very slow shutter speeds. Here is an image taken with a 600mm lens on a full frame camera at 1/25 second.


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May 14, 2017 10:17:45   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
The old 1/focal length suggestion for finding the minimum shutter setting applies 35mm or full-frame cameras. You would need to use the equivalent focal length (x 1.6 rop factor) to find that setting with your camera. As suggested, monopods can be quite handy and are more portable than a tripod.
Too late now, but in Photoshop CC there is a shake removal tool that may improve things a bit.

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May 14, 2017 10:34:05   #
Winslowe
 
tarsen wrote:
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.

One option not mentioned is to hold the camera steadier.

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May 14, 2017 11:19:23   #
tarsen Loc: Minneapolis MN
 
I forgot to include the iso setting. I set it to auto and auto max to 3200. All were taken at 3200. Had I used 6400 it may have solved the problem and been using 1/320 for shutter speed. In this case I would rather have grain than camera shake. Did not buy the image stabilization on the Tamron lense. I might have gone to 12800 ISO also.

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May 14, 2017 11:29:08   #
BebuLamar
 
What I did in such a situation I sneak. I know it's not allowed but I use a shorter lens like 50mm and find a place where I could jump in and take a shot before got kicking out.

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May 15, 2017 06:19:53   #
tracs101 Loc: Huntington NY
 
Great crop photo of the cat.

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May 15, 2017 07:01:22   #
TomV Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
 
A 200mm lens for a 6 ft subject 400 ft away is too small for sharp pictures. A small subject on your frame does not improve its resolution just because you zoom in on your monitor.

I would try this setup on a tripod and determine how sharp you can really get with your rig.

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May 15, 2017 07:12:25   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
tarsen wrote:
I attended a college graduation last Friday. This was at the hockey arena at the University of Minnesota and we sat about 1/2 way up in the stands. I would guess about 400 ft. to the stage. I used my new Rebel T6I with my Tamron 70 to 200 lense (set to max = 300 mm for APC). Most of the pictures were taken at 160 sec at 2.8. I see camera shake in everyone.
Is/was there anything I could have done to reduce that? I don't think even a monopod would have helped.


Tripod and faster shutter speed.

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