GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA

I invite Hogs on both side of the political abyss to read Ms Rubin's columns in - oh, the horror! - The Washington Post. She is a properly credentialed Conservative: Copied from info at WaPo:

"Jennifer Rubin writes the Right Turn blog for The Post, offering reported opinion from a conservative perspective. She covers a range of domestic and foreign policy issues and provides insight into the conservative movement and the Republican Party. Rubin came to The Post after three years with Commentary magazine. Her work has appeared in a number of print and online publications, including The Weekly Standard, where she has been a frequent contributor. Prior to her career in journalism, Rubin practiced labor law for two decades. She lives in Northern Virginia with her husband and two sons."

To this Liberal she offers a reasoned rebuttal to the often inane spews of so many of the so-called Conservative writers. I can well imagine talking with her over coffee and not fearing a rant, as would be the case from, say, Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or too many others so beloved by many on this forum.

Indeed, many on this forum might well follow her example and seek to change minds with reason and facts, rather than ad hominem attacks and personal insults. Unless, of course, those attackers aren't really interested in changing minds and hearts, but would rather revel in flinging filth...?

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Can you say RINO?

SBW

No, he cannot, too stupid.

GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA

Well, I'd hoped for thoughtful, or at least polite replies, but instead you two show up. You and others like you seem determined drag every post to your levels, the lowest common denominators. Have either of you two misanthropes bothered to read Ms Rubin's columns? Or is that beyond your limited intellectual capacities. Indeed, is either of you even able to read?

dljen Loc: Central PA

I just read her most recent article and found it interesting, I agree with you, George, and will be more attentive to her columns.

The one I read was: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/05/11/no-good-lawyer-would-have-let-trump-give-lester-holt-this-interview/?utm_term=.8929e47dcc7d#comments

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Gee, my little question upset your snowflake sensibilities so much that you have to whine and snivel? Perhaps you should run back into your safe space with a coloring book like the little girl that you are!

Take that Dimwit mutt with you.

GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA

Ms Rubin sounds a sorrowful note for the degradation the Republican Party is experiencing. What past Republican president could gain the nomination, let alone win an election? The waters are terribly muddied.

Back in the day Republicans and Democrats were generally friendly antagonists. They'd disagree on the floor of Congress, then afterwards meet in a bi-partisan manner for dinner and perhaps drinks. Does this happen any more? Are they able to reach across the aisle and cooperate - quaint, old-fashioned word that - in getting the Nation's business done, each side being able to give a little to get a little. But compromise seems a dirty word today.

That sad change is mirrored in the "discussions" here on the Hogg, where posts generally deteriorate into flame-wars with remarkable speed. Even a nascent thoughtful exchange is generally torpedoed by the bottom-feeders, and we all know who they are.

dljen Loc: Central PA

Yes, it's a shame but they tend to be here stirring the pot whatever the subject may be. I ignore because I consider them insane or having dementia or some mental condition, TBH, I believe they're beneath me and want to have nothing to do with them...

I doubt if there is any compromise, I think the R's were so glad to win a national election that they pinned high hopes on Trump. He's a complete failure, sees himself as an autocrat and wants to pursue making the US into a dictatorship. He has no appreciation of history or understanding even how his own government works and is surprised when he's stopped at every turn. R's foolishly stood behind him and are going to get burnt if they don't change their allegiance. Joe Scarborough has been tweeting about this today and yesterday.

Next president, we'll have to see whether he reads books, not gossip columns like Trump.

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

It's not limited to Congress or the HOG George. Go read the article about the cafe at American University being set for Blacks only. Or read about Harvard and having a separate graduation ceremony for Black graduates. One of my kids is graduating from Simmons College in Boston. Gays are being issued some sort of cord to adorn their gowns for being gay.

Everyone gets a trophy, everyone has a "trigger", and everyone requires a safe space to console themselves on their "struggles". You want to know who got Trump elected? Obama did...100%. Obama swung that pendulum so far left that it was a foregone conclusion that it would swing back the other way. Hillary and her camp are grade A idiots for not seeing that.

I live in Massachusetts which about as "D" as it gets. Trump got at least a third of the vote here or roughly 1 million votes. I was shocked that it was more than a few hundred thousand. Markey, Warren, and Kennedy all made noise about how bad Trump is. The first 2 are going to lose their seats and Kennedy will stick because of his last name. I think Warren will lose in her primary. She's that bad.

People make like Comey was running the investigation. Who actually believes that? He ran the FBI. Other people run the investigations. I'm sure those working the Clinton Email server investigation(s) are all crying...NOT! Comey should have been fired for "pre-judging" last summer. The FBI does not get to try cases. They collect evidence. Courts try cases and juries pass their verdict and Judges pass sentence. Comey pretended to be investigator, litigator, jury and judge. Trump is cleaning out the Obama garbage.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Believe me it's by design good thread

btbg

I agree with you taht ad hominem attacks are counter productive. I also agree that we would get farther of we actually politely discussed issues instead of taking such polarizing stances. However, it is both sides that are too blame, not just the right.

Probably no point in saying this, but what exactly is Rubin's credentials for being a conservative? She is a conservative just like David Brooks is a conservative. In other words not so much. Where I live she is considered at best a moderate. That doesn't mean that she doesn't on occasion write interesting opinion pieces. It just seems strange to me that those of you on the left have a failure to understand what true conservatives really are. You would benefit if you tried to understand what makes conservatives tick just like conservatives could benefit from trying to understand liberals.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be going to happen. Most of the conservatives name call and many of the progressives deflect, deny, and refuse to acknowledge even the most valid points made from the other side of the aisle.

I would pretty much agree with your post if you just hadn't insisted on labeling Rubin as conservative. If you want to see conservative listen to Mark Lavin, Michael Savage, or Glen Beck. Most other radio, television and media personalities, not so much.