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Apr 24, 2017 13:53:02   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/24/new-orleans-begins-to-take-down-prominent-confederate-monuments.html



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Apr 24, 2017 13:57:56   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Removing monuments will not change history.

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Apr 24, 2017 14:21:39   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Hal81 wrote:
Removing monuments will not change history.


It will if you are a "snowflake"!

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Apr 24, 2017 14:37:06   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Hal81 wrote:
Removing monuments will not change history.


Correct, removing monuments will not change history. However, it will advance the future.

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Apr 24, 2017 14:56:49   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
RixPix wrote:
Correct, removing monuments will not change history. However, it will advance the future.


If you forget the past you may repeat it. That's what the Germans want to do about Hitler. You cannot hide from the past. What the Confederates did was wrong. Here in Pennsylvania we have Gettysburg. Monuments for both sides. We will never forget tha men that died ehere.

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Apr 24, 2017 15:04:18   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
RixPix wrote:
Correct, removing monuments will not change history. However, it will advance the future.


Who said so?

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Apr 24, 2017 15:17:40   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Hal81 wrote:
If you forget the past you may repeat it. That's what the Germans want to do about Hitler. You cannot hide from the past. What the Confederates did was wrong. Here in Pennsylvania we have Gettysburg. Monuments for both sides. We will never forget tha men that died ehere.


From PA, been to Gettysburg at least ten times as a child and as an adult with children. There is a significant difference between honoring the fallen and promoting the agenda of the Confederacy. I've been to Germany and of German heritage they will never forget. BTW...My family's heritage in this country starts before most as my ancestor was a Hessian soldier that came to fight for the Crown, changed sides and fought for Colonies.

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Apr 24, 2017 17:00:13   #
FlyingTiger Loc: Tortola, BVI
 
RixPix wrote:
From PA, been to Gettysburg at least ten times as a child and as an adult with children. There is a significant difference between honoring the fallen and promoting the agenda of the Confederacy. I've been to Germany and of German heritage they will never forget. BTW...My family's heritage in this country starts before most as my ancestor was a Hessian soldier that came to fight for the Crown, changed sides and fought for Colonies.


You are an absolute fool.

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Apr 24, 2017 17:14:50   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
RixPix wrote:
From PA, been to Gettysburg at least ten times as a child and as an adult with children. There is a significant difference between honoring the fallen and promoting the agenda of the Confederacy. I've been to Germany and of German heritage they will never forget. BTW...My family's heritage in this country starts before most as my ancestor was a Hessian soldier that came to fight for the Crown, changed sides and fought for Colonies.


I'll see you your Hessian heritage and raise you a Mayflower Society membership.

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Apr 25, 2017 00:12:51   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
idaholover wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/24/new-orleans-begins-to-take-down-prominent-confederate-monuments.html


NEW ORLEANS — A monument to a deadly white-supremacist uprising in 1874 was removed under cover of darkness by workers in masks and bulletproof vests Monday as New Orleans joined the movement to take down symbols of the Confederacy and the Jim Crow South.

The Liberty Place monument, a 35-foot granite obelisk that pays tribute to whites who tried to topple a biracial Reconstruction government installed in New Orleans after the Civil War, was taken away on a truck in pieces before daybreak after a few hours of work.

In the coming days, the city will also remove three statues of Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and P.G.T. Beauregard and Confederate President Jefferson Davis, now that legal challenges have been overcome.

“We will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city,” Mayor Mitch Landrieu vowed.

The removal of the obelisk was carried out early in the morning because of death threats and fears of disruption from supporters of the monuments.

The workers wore military-style helmets and had scarves over their faces. Police were on hand, with officers watching from atop a hotel parking garage.

“The statue was put up to honor the killing of police officers by white supremacists,” Landrieu said. “Of the four that we will move, this statue is perhaps the most blatant affront to the values that make America and New Orleans strong today.”

Citing safety concerns, the mayor would not disclose exactly when the other monuments would be taken down, except to say that it will be done at night to avoid trouble.

He said the monuments will be put in storage until an appropriate place to display them is determined.

Nationally, the debate over Confederate symbols has flared since nine black parishioners were shot to death by an avowed racist at a church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015.

South Carolina removed the Confederate flag from its statehouse grounds in the weeks after, and several Southern cities have since considered removing monuments. The University of Mississippi took down its state flag because it includes the Confederate emblem.

New Orleans is a mostly black city of nearly 390,000. The majority-black City Council voted 6-1 in 2015 to take the monuments down, but legal battles held up action.

Landrieu, a white Democrat, proposed the monuments’ removal and rode to victory twice with overwhelming support from the city’s black residents.

Opponents of the memorials say they are offensive artifacts honoring the region’s racist past. Others say the monuments are part of history and should be preserved.

Robert Bonner, a 63-year-old Civil War re-enactor, was there to protest the monument’s removal.

“I think it’s a terrible thing,” he said. “When you start removing the history of the city, you start losing money. You start losing where you came from and where you’ve been.”

The Monumental Task Committee, which sued to preserve the memorials, condemned the middle-of-the-night removal as “atrocious government.”

The Liberty Place monument was erected in 1891 to commemorate the failed uprising by the Crescent City White League.

Sixteen White Leaguers, 13 members of the white and black Metropolitan police force and six bystanders were among those killed in the bloody battle down Canal Street.

President Ulysses Grant sent federal troops to take the city back three days later. However, the White League grew in power in New Orleans after the battle, with its members and allies taking over the city and state government after Reconstruction.

An inscription added in 1932 said the Yankees withdrew federal troops and “recognized white supremacy in the South” after the uprising. In 1993, those words were covered by a granite slab with a new inscription, saying the obelisk honors “Americans on both sides” who died and that the conflict “should teach us lessons for the future.”

New Orleans removed the memorial from busy Canal Street during a paving project in 1989 and didn’t put it back up until the city was sued. Even then, it was consigned to an obscure spot on a side street.

Landrieu said the memorials don’t represent his city as it approaches its 300th anniversary next year.

Removing the monuments is “not about blame,” the mayor said. Rather, it’s about “showing the whole world that we as a city and as people are able to acknowledge, understand, reconcile and — most importantly — choose a better future, making straight what has been crooked and right what has been wrong.”

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Apr 25, 2017 07:14:32   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
idaholover wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/24/new-orleans-begins-to-take-down-prominent-confederate-monuments.html


I don't agree with taking those statues down, I don't condone what the confederacy stood for but that's part of our history and should be left where they are.

Rich

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Apr 25, 2017 11:15:04   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
RixPix wrote:
NEW ORLEANS — A monument to a deadly white-supremacist uprising in 1874 was removed under cover of darkness by workers in masks and bulletproof vests Monday as New Orleans joined the movement to take down symbols of the Confederacy and the Jim Crow South.

The Liberty Place monument, a 35-foot granite obelisk that pays tribute to whites who tried to topple a biracial Reconstruction government installed in New Orleans after the Civil War, was taken away on a truck in pieces before daybreak after a few hours of work.

In the coming days, the city will also remove three statues of Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and P.G.T. Beauregard and Confederate President Jefferson Davis, now that legal challenges have been overcome.

“We will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city,” Mayor Mitch Landrieu vowed.

The removal of the obelisk was carried out early in the morning because of death threats and fears of disruption from supporters of the monuments.

The workers wore military-style helmets and had scarves over their faces. Police were on hand, with officers watching from atop a hotel parking garage.

“The statue was put up to honor the killing of police officers by white supremacists,” Landrieu said. “Of the four that we will move, this statue is perhaps the most blatant affront to the values that make America and New Orleans strong today.”

Citing safety concerns, the mayor would not disclose exactly when the other monuments would be taken down, except to say that it will be done at night to avoid trouble.

He said the monuments will be put in storage until an appropriate place to display them is determined.

Nationally, the debate over Confederate symbols has flared since nine black parishioners were shot to death by an avowed racist at a church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015.

South Carolina removed the Confederate flag from its statehouse grounds in the weeks after, and several Southern cities have since considered removing monuments. The University of Mississippi took down its state flag because it includes the Confederate emblem.

New Orleans is a mostly black city of nearly 390,000. The majority-black City Council voted 6-1 in 2015 to take the monuments down, but legal battles held up action.

Landrieu, a white Democrat, proposed the monuments’ removal and rode to victory twice with overwhelming support from the city’s black residents.

Opponents of the memorials say they are offensive artifacts honoring the region’s racist past. Others say the monuments are part of history and should be preserved.

Robert Bonner, a 63-year-old Civil War re-enactor, was there to protest the monument’s removal.

“I think it’s a terrible thing,” he said. “When you start removing the history of the city, you start losing money. You start losing where you came from and where you’ve been.”

The Monumental Task Committee, which sued to preserve the memorials, condemned the middle-of-the-night removal as “atrocious government.”

The Liberty Place monument was erected in 1891 to commemorate the failed uprising by the Crescent City White League.

Sixteen White Leaguers, 13 members of the white and black Metropolitan police force and six bystanders were among those killed in the bloody battle down Canal Street.

President Ulysses Grant sent federal troops to take the city back three days later. However, the White League grew in power in New Orleans after the battle, with its members and allies taking over the city and state government after Reconstruction.

An inscription added in 1932 said the Yankees withdrew federal troops and “recognized white supremacy in the South” after the uprising. In 1993, those words were covered by a granite slab with a new inscription, saying the obelisk honors “Americans on both sides” who died and that the conflict “should teach us lessons for the future.”

New Orleans removed the memorial from busy Canal Street during a paving project in 1989 and didn’t put it back up until the city was sued. Even then, it was consigned to an obscure spot on a side street.

Landrieu said the memorials don’t represent his city as it approaches its 300th anniversary next year.

Removing the monuments is “not about blame,” the mayor said. Rather, it’s about “showing the whole world that we as a city and as people are able to acknowledge, understand, reconcile and — most importantly — choose a better future, making straight what has been crooked and right what has been wrong.”

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Landrieu is a liberal PC cop!

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Apr 25, 2017 16:46:04   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
idaholover wrote:
Landrieu is a liberal PC cop!


And you're a racist What's your point?

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Apr 25, 2017 17:59:04   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Destroying statues? Isn't that what the taliban and isis do?

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Apr 26, 2017 13:51:52   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Kombiguy wrote:
Destroying statues? Isn't that what the taliban and isis do?


That's wanton destruction...not the same thing.

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