Some Folks Need to Stick to the Script
Apr 11, 2017 17:05:52 #
Spicer stepped in it big time today. It's hard to walk some things back into the can.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
And that on both the time of Passover and the anniversary of The Allies liberating Buchenwald. What a putz.
--Bob
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
And that on both the time of Passover and the anniversary of The Allies liberating Buchenwald. What a putz.
--Bob
Apr 11, 2017 17:20:39 #
In the early part of Hitler's program to weed out the undesireables, the packed them into sealed vans and piped engine exhaust gas to kill them. The that famed German chemical company perfected Zyclon-B, which included hydrogen cyanide. It was a gas.
Apr 11, 2017 17:30:37 #
John_F wrote:
In the early part of Hitler's program to weed out the undesireables, the packed them into sealed vans and piped engine exhaust gas to kill them. The that famed German chemical company perfected Zyclon-B, which included hydrogen cyanide. It was a gas.
Duh!
Apr 11, 2017 17:35:20 #
Are you referring to Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie A.G.?
--Bob
--Bob
John_F wrote:
In the early part of Hitler's program to weed out the undesireables, the packed them into sealed vans and piped engine exhaust gas to kill them. The that famed German chemical company perfected Zyclon-B, which included hydrogen cyanide. It was a gas.
Apr 11, 2017 18:07:24 #
rmalarz wrote:
Are you referring to Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie A.G.?
--Bob
--Bob
They had a lot of help from American Companies.
Apr 12, 2017 00:53:54 #
ken hubert wrote:
They had a lot of help from American Companies.
And by that statement you mean...? How about a little context, or even some facts?
Apr 12, 2017 01:18:40 #
rmalarz wrote:
Spicer stepped in it big time today. It's hard to walk some things back into the can.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
And that on both the time of Passover and the anniversary of The Allies liberating Buchenwald. What a putz.
--Bob
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
And that on both the time of Passover and the anniversary of The Allies liberating Buchenwald. What a putz.
--Bob
No person speaking regarding current politics should ever mention Hitler. To do so tarnishes the credibility of the speaker.
Apr 12, 2017 05:19:24 #
GeorgeH wrote:
And by that statement you mean...? How about a little context, or even some facts?
Do your own research and you will find it. Lazy Lib. Did it for you once and you never responded. So get off your lazy ass and find it for yourself. I know it will take an extreme effort on your part to find it but maybe, just maybe, you might learn something
Apr 12, 2017 05:42:05 #
RixPix wrote:
No person speaking regarding current politics should ever mention Hitler. To do so tarnishes the credibility of the speaker.
Really? In what way?
Apr 12, 2017 12:51:57 #
Part of Wikipedia article on sain.
History
Sarin was discovered in 1938 in Wuppertal-Elberfeld in Germany by scientists at IG Farben who were attempting to create stronger pesticides; it is the most toxic of the four G-Series nerve agents made by Germany. The compound, which followed the discovery of the nerve agent tabun, was named in honor of its discoverers: Schrader, Ambros, Gerhard Ritter, and von der Linde.[38]
Use as a weapon
In mid-1939, the formula for the agent was passed to the chemical warfare section of the German Army Weapons Office, which ordered that it be brought into mass production for wartime use. Pilot plants were built, and a high-production facility was under construction (but was not finished) by the end of World War II. Estimates for total sarin production by Nazi Germany range from 500 kg to 10 tons.[39] Though sarin, tabun and soman were incorporated into artillery shells, Germany did not use nerve agents against Allied targets.
U.S. Honest John missile warhead cutaway, showing M134 sarin bomblets (c. 1960)
* 1950s (early): NATO adopted sarin as a standard chemical weapon, and both the USSR and the United States produced sarin for military purposes.
* 1953: 20-year-old Ronald Maddison, a Royal Air Force engineer from Consett, County Durham, died in human testing of sarin at the Porton Down chemical warfare testing facility in Wiltshire, England. Ten days after his death an inquest was held in secret which returned a verdict of "misadventure". In 2004, the inquest was reopened and, after a 64-day inquest hearing, the jury ruled that Maddison had been unlawfully killed by the "application of a nerve agent in a non-therapeutic experiment".[40]
* 1957: Regular production of sarin chemical weapons ceased in the United States, though existing stocks of bulk sarin were re-distilled until 1970.[41]
* 1976: Chile's intelligence service, DINA, assigns biochemist Eugenio Berríos to develop sarin gas within its program Proyecto Andrea, to be used as a weapon against its opponents.[42] One of DINA's goals was to package it in spray cans for easy use, which, according to testimony by former DINA agent Michael Townley, was one of the planned procedures in the 1976 assassination of Letelier.[42] Berríos later testified that it was used in a number of assassinations.[43][44]
* March 1988: Over two days in March, the ethnic Kurd city of Halabja in northern Iraq (population 70,000) was bombarded with chemical bombs, which included sarin, in the Halabja poison gas attack. An estimated 5,000 people died.[45]
* April 1988: Sarin was used four times against Iranian soldiers at the end of the Iran–Iraq War, helping Iraqi forces to retake control of the al-Faw Peninsula during the Second Battle of al-Faw.
* 1993: The United Nations Chemical Weapons Convention was signed by 162 member countries, banning the production and stockpiling of many chemical weapons, including sarin. It went into effect on April 29, 1997, and called for the complete destruction of all specified stockpiles of chemical weapons by April 2007.[46] When the convention entered force, the parties declared worldwide stockpiles of 15,047 tonnes of sarin. As of December 2015, 89% of the stockpiles had been destroyed.[47]
* 1994: Matsumoto incident; the Japanese religious sect Aum Shinrikyo released an impure form of sarin in Matsumoto, Nagano, killing eight people and harming over 200. The Australian sheep station Banjawarn was a testing ground.
* 1995: Tokyo subway sarin attack; the Aum Shinrikyo sect released an impure form of sarin in the Tokyo Metro. Twelve people died.[48]
* 2004: Iraqi insurgents detonated a 155 mm shell containing binary precursors for sarin near a U.S. convoy in Iraq. The shell was designed to mix the chemicals as it spun during flight. The detonated shell released only a small amount of sarin gas, either because the explosion failed to mix the binary agents properly or because the chemicals inside the shell had degraded with age. Two United States soldiers were treated after displaying the early symptoms of exposure to sarin.[49]
* 2013: Ghouta chemical attack; sarin was used in an attack in the Ghouta region of the Rif Dimashq Governorate of Syria during the Syrian civil war.[50] Varying[51] sources gave a death toll of 322[52] to 1,729.[53]
* 2017: Khan Shaykhun chemical attack; sarin gas was allegedly released in rebel-held Idlib Province in Syria during a Syrian air force strike[54].
History
Sarin was discovered in 1938 in Wuppertal-Elberfeld in Germany by scientists at IG Farben who were attempting to create stronger pesticides; it is the most toxic of the four G-Series nerve agents made by Germany. The compound, which followed the discovery of the nerve agent tabun, was named in honor of its discoverers: Schrader, Ambros, Gerhard Ritter, and von der Linde.[38]
Use as a weapon
In mid-1939, the formula for the agent was passed to the chemical warfare section of the German Army Weapons Office, which ordered that it be brought into mass production for wartime use. Pilot plants were built, and a high-production facility was under construction (but was not finished) by the end of World War II. Estimates for total sarin production by Nazi Germany range from 500 kg to 10 tons.[39] Though sarin, tabun and soman were incorporated into artillery shells, Germany did not use nerve agents against Allied targets.
U.S. Honest John missile warhead cutaway, showing M134 sarin bomblets (c. 1960)
* 1950s (early): NATO adopted sarin as a standard chemical weapon, and both the USSR and the United States produced sarin for military purposes.
* 1953: 20-year-old Ronald Maddison, a Royal Air Force engineer from Consett, County Durham, died in human testing of sarin at the Porton Down chemical warfare testing facility in Wiltshire, England. Ten days after his death an inquest was held in secret which returned a verdict of "misadventure". In 2004, the inquest was reopened and, after a 64-day inquest hearing, the jury ruled that Maddison had been unlawfully killed by the "application of a nerve agent in a non-therapeutic experiment".[40]
* 1957: Regular production of sarin chemical weapons ceased in the United States, though existing stocks of bulk sarin were re-distilled until 1970.[41]
* 1976: Chile's intelligence service, DINA, assigns biochemist Eugenio Berríos to develop sarin gas within its program Proyecto Andrea, to be used as a weapon against its opponents.[42] One of DINA's goals was to package it in spray cans for easy use, which, according to testimony by former DINA agent Michael Townley, was one of the planned procedures in the 1976 assassination of Letelier.[42] Berríos later testified that it was used in a number of assassinations.[43][44]
* March 1988: Over two days in March, the ethnic Kurd city of Halabja in northern Iraq (population 70,000) was bombarded with chemical bombs, which included sarin, in the Halabja poison gas attack. An estimated 5,000 people died.[45]
* April 1988: Sarin was used four times against Iranian soldiers at the end of the Iran–Iraq War, helping Iraqi forces to retake control of the al-Faw Peninsula during the Second Battle of al-Faw.
* 1993: The United Nations Chemical Weapons Convention was signed by 162 member countries, banning the production and stockpiling of many chemical weapons, including sarin. It went into effect on April 29, 1997, and called for the complete destruction of all specified stockpiles of chemical weapons by April 2007.[46] When the convention entered force, the parties declared worldwide stockpiles of 15,047 tonnes of sarin. As of December 2015, 89% of the stockpiles had been destroyed.[47]
* 1994: Matsumoto incident; the Japanese religious sect Aum Shinrikyo released an impure form of sarin in Matsumoto, Nagano, killing eight people and harming over 200. The Australian sheep station Banjawarn was a testing ground.
* 1995: Tokyo subway sarin attack; the Aum Shinrikyo sect released an impure form of sarin in the Tokyo Metro. Twelve people died.[48]
* 2004: Iraqi insurgents detonated a 155 mm shell containing binary precursors for sarin near a U.S. convoy in Iraq. The shell was designed to mix the chemicals as it spun during flight. The detonated shell released only a small amount of sarin gas, either because the explosion failed to mix the binary agents properly or because the chemicals inside the shell had degraded with age. Two United States soldiers were treated after displaying the early symptoms of exposure to sarin.[49]
* 2013: Ghouta chemical attack; sarin was used in an attack in the Ghouta region of the Rif Dimashq Governorate of Syria during the Syrian civil war.[50] Varying[51] sources gave a death toll of 322[52] to 1,729.[53]
* 2017: Khan Shaykhun chemical attack; sarin gas was allegedly released in rebel-held Idlib Province in Syria during a Syrian air force strike[54].
Apr 12, 2017 14:45:06 #
rmalarz wrote:
Spicer stepped in it big time today. It's hard to walk some things back into the can.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
And that on both the time of Passover and the anniversary of The Allies liberating Buchenwald. What a putz.
--Bob
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
And that on both the time of Passover and the anniversary of The Allies liberating Buchenwald. What a putz.
--Bob
He figures if POTUS can make loonecy comments he surely can to.
Apr 12, 2017 16:51:28 #
rmalarz wrote:
Spicer stepped in it big time today. It's hard to walk some things back into the can.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
--Bob
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/11/spicer-hitler-didnt-even-sink-to-using-chemical-weapons/100333958/
--Bob
Kinda like letting Dirtpusher post anything on the hog....
Apr 12, 2017 16:52:57 #
dirtpusher wrote:
He figures if POTUS can make loonecy comments he surely can to.
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Apr 12, 2017 16:53:11 #
HEART wrote:
Kind like letting Dirtpusher post anything on the hog....
😂😂😂😂😂
Apr 12, 2017 16:57:04 #
ken hubert wrote:
Do your own research and you will find it. Lazy Lib. Did it for you once and you never responded. So get off your lazy ass and find it for yourself. I know it will take an extreme effort on your part to find it but maybe, just maybe, you might learn something
So you can make an unsupported assertion and expect others to verify it? Show your sources.
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