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Apr 10, 2017 10:46:56   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Allen D S wrote:
I wonder if lenses-only could be carried onboard. The camera body goes in checked baggage. Lenses can be inspected by holding them up to the light - although that might be too advanced for TSA.


I think that reading Cat in The Hat by Dr. Seuss is too advanced for most of them

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Apr 10, 2017 11:07:32   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Glad I live in California, so much Natural Beauty here I don't have to think about commercially flying anywhere. And if I get bored with the Mojave or Yosemite I can drive my own car to Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oregon, or as far as Utah and not miss much. I'm not much on photographing cliche's much anyway. So my idea of travel photography is still a bit abstract.

Good luck with the TSA and foreign security.
Glad I live in California, so much Natural Beauty ... (show quote)


Glad I live in Georgia where I can drive to Alabama, Mississippi, . . . . .

Oh never mind.

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Apr 10, 2017 11:08:08   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
agambrell wrote:
You said, "Surprised that American friends on here think ..." I don't recall anyone here stating they "think" that the individual who perpetrated the terrorist attack in Sweden was planning on jumping on a plane to come attack America. The concern seems to be that some here think it a possibility that those who control what can be carried into the cabin of an international flight may think that terrorist may use alternate routes to get to the US. This could result in additional restrictions on what can be carried onto a commercial aircraft. The question was about alternatives for having access to photographic gear when traveling internationally, if such restrictions should occur. There were some good suggestions from forum members, such as ship ahead, rent gear at the destination, take a boat, pack the gear in a secure case and check it, etc.

Your response to what was a simple, and reasonable question appears to me to be a sly attempt to impute a nefarious motive to the original questioner and some of those who responded to the question.

It makes me question why you are on the forum. I, for one, plan to just ignore any further postings you make.
You said, "Surprised that American friends on... (show quote)


Just a note that it would help if you would identify to whom you were replying.

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Apr 10, 2017 11:10:36   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
berchman wrote:
So driving around the Western U.S., you will see herds of wildebeest and elephants in their natural habitat; you'll see Indian Hindu temples and street life; you'll visit Christian monasteries carved into cliff sides like in Ethiopia, etc. You've got the right idea--save yourself from having to taste unusual food, save yourself from struggling with foreign languages, save yourself from encountering people with very different ideas about living.


Those people are all in California.

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Apr 10, 2017 11:19:32   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
There are camera rentals in Rome and other areas ... just google "camera rentals in Italy ... just bring your own lenses .. Mailing your camera home .. only FEDX over insured .. locked Pelican box which I use or super wrapped ... any European mailing to the states is an untraceable nightmare ... USPS here in the states will track a package once it enters our postal system over here ...but not over there if it's lost ..

You can contact camera clubs in Roma and elsewhwere for Ideas ...the net will provide ...

Good Luck ..

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Apr 10, 2017 11:26:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
elliott937 wrote:
In light of Stockholm, I suspect it will only be a matter of time when more flights to the US will prohibit more than a cell phone in the cabin of the airplane, hence requiring DSLRs to be tossed below in with luggage. And I thank other UHH members for telling me about toss-safe cases, but many International flights require two, three, or four transfers, and there exist the problem. To which I have a new challenge for my fellow UHH members.

Suppose I cannot take my DSLR to and return from the Baltic region. I plan to travel there only once, and that includes the Hermitage Museum. Does there exist an ultra thin camera that could capture an image good enough to become a 60x48" wrapped canvas? I have such an image on the wall, image from Florence, Italy. I want to do it again from St. Petersburg. My Canon 5DII would do that well, again. BUT, we don't know what Summer 2017 will present to air travel.

So, suppose a DSLR cannot be used, do you all have an ultra-thin (and small) camera that you have used, that would take an amazing RAW image, yet be about the size of an iPhone?
In light of Stockholm, I suspect it will only be a... (show quote)


It's a shame what the airlines are doing to us. Prices go up, and service goes down. I can understand the need for security, but there is also the need for the other kind of security - our gear. I think airlines resent passengers. They would rather just collect the fare and deliver the luggage. No more flying for me.

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Apr 10, 2017 11:55:47   #
Violameister Loc: michigan
 
We just flew back from the Middle East and were under the restriction. We wrapped our cameras in our clothing and placed them in our checked bags; and stuffed our camera bags with the clothing that was displaced by the cameras. Everything made it home safely and intact. We flew Royal Jordanian airlines, and were well taken care of. Ironically, the restriction was put in place after we arrived in the Middle East so we had no real alternative.

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Apr 10, 2017 12:06:31   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
elliott937 wrote:
Guys,

Tong in cheek comment on side, I'm concerned with the attack in Stockholm. Even here, on UHH, a fellow member mentioned that a terrorist need only travel to another city, to board a plane to the US. That departure city could be Rome, St. Petersburg, Barcelona, or Stockholm. I believe, and tell me if I'm the only one thinking this, but I believe that International travel to the United States could move to a point that all but smart-phone devices could be banned, banned for the passenger cabin, hence the overhead storage area. If this were to happen, then it would mean that all of us members here could not take our DSLR cameras/lenses on board planes for International travel. And after all, isn't photography a major reason why we look forward to International travel?
Guys, br br Tong in cheek comment on side, I'm co... (show quote)


I don't get what Stockholm has to with this. Do you plan to carry on a truck?

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Apr 10, 2017 12:07:40   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
First, let me thank you for your information. Second, I was thinking that it is HIGHLY possible that such a restriction could be put into place AFTER we were to arrive in a European country. You've just clarified that possibility. Even though we won't be flying until June, I believe something could happen while "there", that would cause a new no-camera-in-the-cabin restriction once we arrived in that country, just as it did now for you.

Did you transfer many planes? And if so, did your 'checked' baggage (with camera) make it all the way home here in the US?

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Apr 10, 2017 12:14:18   #
Violameister Loc: michigan
 
elliott937 wrote:
First, let me thank you for your information. Second, I was thinking that it is HIGHLY possible that such a restriction could be put into place AFTER we were to arrive in a European country. You've just clarified that possibility. Even though we won't be flying until June, I believe something could happen while "there", that would cause a new no-camera-in-the-cabin restriction once we arrived in that country, just as it did now for you.

Did you transfer many planes? And if so, did your 'checked' baggage (with camera) make it all the way home here in the US?
First, let me thank you for your information. Seco... (show quote)


We flew direct to the US. Other members of our group did transfer planes. Nobody lost any camera equipment by theft or breakage.

Security at the Egyptian and Jordanian airports was tight, and everybody there took the restrictions seriously. We worried a lot in the week before we returned home, but all turned out well.

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Apr 10, 2017 12:24:40   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Mac wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/21/news/airline-electronics-ban-explainer/index.html


Ah, that makes a real concern clear. The truck attack in Sweden has nothing to with the concern.

So if planning such a trip it appears prudent to plan on having to put your electronic equipment in checked baggage. That means at least leaving space for it and suitable cushioning because checked baggage sometimes recieves rough handling. It also means getting suitable full replacement insurance against pilfering, which is also common and likely to be encouraged by the restrictions.

Yet another reason (in addition to Delta's efforts this past week) to eschew air travel.

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Apr 10, 2017 12:26:32   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
For International DHS with a signed receipt request. Notify hotel that the package is coming. Don't say what is in it. Ship toss-safe case inside of a box.





elliott937 wrote:
In light of Stockholm, I suspect it will only be a matter of time when more flights to the US will prohibit more than a cell phone in the cabin of the airplane, hence requiring DSLRs to be tossed below in with luggage. And I thank other UHH members for telling me about toss-safe cases, but many International flights require two, three, or four transfers, and there exist the problem. To which I have a new challenge for my fellow UHH members.

Suppose I cannot take my DSLR to and return from the Baltic region. I plan to travel there only once, and that includes the Hermitage Museum. Does there exist an ultra thin camera that could capture an image good enough to become a 60x48" wrapped canvas? I have such an image on the wall, image from Florence, Italy. I want to do it again from St. Petersburg. My Canon 5DII would do that well, again. BUT, we don't know what Summer 2017 will present to air travel.

So, suppose a DSLR cannot be used, do you all have an ultra-thin (and small) camera that you have used, that would take an amazing RAW image, yet be about the size of an iPhone?
In light of Stockholm, I suspect it will only be a... (show quote)

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Apr 10, 2017 12:31:50   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Good idea. A Pelican case with lock shipped via Fed-X, set to arrive when you are home.


The lock may pose problems with 'customs'. They are authorized to break those any-which-way-they-can to examine contents. This is true for any locked checked in baggages as well -- even when the owner is travelling by the same flight and can be approached for the key or combination etc. We live in dire times... :-(

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Apr 10, 2017 12:33:59   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
pegasusphil wrote:
Surprised that American friends on here think that a disaffected, semi-radical Swedish resident, unhappy at the idea of being deported from Sweden, might travel elsewhere so he could then fly to the US to attack it. Seems pretty unlikely. Not all people who drive trucks into shops are "terrorists" in the generally accepted (in the US) sense of the word. Certainly not all of them are intent on attacking the US. Vastly more attacks in the US are by Amercian citizens than by Muslims from Europe (i.e. none of those since 9/11). Let's keep some perspective.
Surprised that American friends on here think that... (show quote)


Be careful about believing fake news from our left wingers.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/11410/complete-list-radical-islamic-terror-attacks-us-james-barrett

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Apr 10, 2017 12:59:13   #
seagullmist Loc: Niantic CT
 
I am going to Europe in May and for $70 bought insurance rider to my home owners that covers any loss due to the Airline losing it. As I travel twice a year this may not save me but at least I can get a new cameras etc. after the trip.

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