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Mar 14, 2017 16:18:55   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
The ultimate savagery!!!



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Mar 14, 2017 16:23:38   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
You either hate or love Windows 10. I have no problem with it as it restored being able to use more than one window at a time from Windows 8. Hated Windows 8 for that limitation.

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Mar 14, 2017 16:29:07   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob

houdel wrote:
The ultimate savagery!!!

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Mar 14, 2017 16:35:49   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
Almost spilled my tea on my laptop!

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Mar 14, 2017 23:31:02   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
This is why my wife still has Windows 7.

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Mar 15, 2017 06:46:35   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I started on mainframes, but in the '70s I got a couple of Apple II computers. We used them in the lab for data acquisition and occasionally for analysis. For what they were, they were very convenient at the time. Then Apple came out with the MAC and PCs started to become prevalent. Apple was a closed system. If you wanted to add hardware, you bought it from Apple. If you wanted to add hardware to your PC there were hundreds of third party vendors available. So I switched to the PC (using DOS: Windows came after that).

Windows 3. Win3.1, Win95, Win98, Vista, Win2000, Win7. Then I got a Win8 laptop but it really didn't fit my style at all. Next computer I went back to Win7. This year I got a Win10 laptop. It works pretty well (I've crashed it only about once a month so far). I really can't say I've had any lasting problems with any of them. Even the Win8 eventually settled down once I learned to avoid the silly metro screen. They all have good and bad points (many of which are "who moved the cheese" type of things). And some of my legacy programs (e.g. Delphi 5, an object-oriented Pascal compiler that I use a lot) take a lot of effort to get working any time I get into a new OS. Only had the Win10 machine about 2 months, but so far it's doing OK. At my age it just takes a little while for a new OS to beat me into shape.

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Mar 15, 2017 11:38:05   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I suppose it's a joke. However, if it is commentary about Win 10:
Installed Win10 (on my desktop) within two weeks of it's original issue by Microsoft.
Also installed on my newer laptop within 1 day of purchase.
Assisted many others with installation
Absolutely love it!! I started with binary IBM punch tape & time sharing, then DOS, Win 3.0, ...
I also help others with Macs, have IOS on two smart phones (wife & mine), ipad (wife).
From my perspective, those who have experienced technical difficulty with Win 10 can often be attributed to operator error, lack of computer skills, having faulty incompatible and older equipment and failing to install updates. Computers, including Macs, are NOT intuitive. There is a learning curve. Many just want it to be like instant coffee. It's not. Very similar to digital cameras and learning photography. Also not instant.
I have had occasion to use Microsoft FREE tech support. My experiences have been wonderful. I also realize that Microsoft has displayed aggressive business tactics. Are there successful businesses that have not displayed similar tactics?

I grow tired of hearing unfounded, categorical criticisms of Win 10. Just my opinion and experiences.
PS: I do not work for Microsoft! LOL
Mark

houdel wrote:
The ultimate savagery!!!

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Mar 15, 2017 14:46:20   #
Orson Burleigh Loc: Annapolis, Maryland, USA
 
houdel wrote:
The ultimate savagery!!!


As a nerd joke it's a hoot

Given the possibility that the afore-mentioned naughty girl might have been of the generation which was the intended target of Windows 8's baffling faux phone GUI face, Windows 10 might indeed be a well-targeted punishment

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Mar 15, 2017 16:41:09   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
markngolf wrote:
I suppose it's a joke. However, if it is commentary about Win 10:
Installed Win10 (on my desktop) within two weeks of it's original issue by Microsoft.
Also installed on my newer laptop within 1 day of purchase.
Assisted many others with installation
Absolutely love it!! I started with binary IBM punch tape & time sharing, then DOS, Win 3.0, ...
I also help others with Macs, have IOS on two smart phones (wife & mine), ipad (wife).
From my perspective, those who have experienced technical difficulty with Win 10 can often be attributed to operator error, lack of computer skills, having faulty incompatible and older equipment and failing to install updates. Computers, including Macs, are NOT intuitive. There is a learning curve. Many just want it to be like instant coffee. It's not. Very similar to digital cameras and learning photography. Also not instant.
I have had occasion to use Microsoft FREE tech support. My experiences have been wonderful. I also realize that Microsoft has displayed aggressive business tactics. Are there successful businesses that have not displayed similar tactics?

I grow tired of hearing unfounded, categorical criticisms of Win 10. Just my opinion and experiences.
PS: I do not work for Microsoft! LOL
Mark
I suppose it's a joke. However, if it is commentar... (show quote)


Windows 10 will even work on a machine that struggled to run Windows 7. I installed it on a PC that originally shipped with Vista (bad) and was slow on 7., A Windows 10 clean install brought new life to it, It's no fireball,but faster than it was!

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Mar 15, 2017 16:51:15   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I started on mainframes, but in the '70s I got a couple of Apple II computers. We used them in the lab for data acquisition and occasionally for analysis. For what they were, they were very convenient at the time. Then Apple came out with the MAC and PCs started to become prevalent. Apple was a closed system. If you wanted to add hardware, you bought it from Apple. If you wanted to add hardware to your PC there were hundreds of third party vendors available. So I switched to the PC (using DOS: Windows came after that).

Windows 3. Win3.1, Win95, Win98, Vista, Win2000, Win7. Then I got a Win8 laptop but it really didn't fit my style at all. Next computer I went back to Win7. This year I got a Win10 laptop. It works pretty well (I've crashed it only about once a month so far). I really can't say I've had any lasting problems with any of them. Even the Win8 eventually settled down once I learned to avoid the silly metro screen. They all have good and bad points (many of which are "who moved the cheese" type of things). And some of my legacy programs (e.g. Delphi 5, an object-oriented Pascal compiler that I use a lot) take a lot of effort to get working any time I get into a new OS. Only had the Win10 machine about 2 months, but so far it's doing OK. At my age it just takes a little while for a new OS to beat me into shape.
I started on mainframes, but in the '70s I got a c... (show quote)


I use DosBox so all my old IBM PC compilers (Early 80s FORTRAN,COBOL, BASCOM command line stuff.) can have a home!

I also have the seldom seen MS Visual BASIC for DOS (yes,it was a thing!)

It emuates a 486DX so compiling code is significantly faster than my original PC-XT! Good times!, Something to show the "kids"



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Mar 16, 2017 13:38:57   #
Virgil Loc: The Hoosier State
 
AAAAHHHHHH YES !!! Good old DOS. Had much fun with "batch files"! I still have some on my old PC. DA.bat -directory of drive A, etc. Shortcuts.

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Mar 16, 2017 14:12:56   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Virgil wrote:
AAAAHHHHHH YES !!! Good old DOS. Had much fun with "batch files"! I still have some on my old PC. DA.bat -directory of drive A, etc. Shortcuts.


Fun with batch files still exists through the Windows 10 command line. You can create a plain ASCII text file in Notepad. (yay, no EDLIN!) Save your text file with a .bat extension and she'll run like the old days.

90% of you batch file knowledge is still useable and of course modern functionality has been added along the years.


Of course Win10 won't run old DOS software though, Need DosBox or a VM for that.

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Mar 16, 2017 16:24:57   #
Virgil Loc: The Hoosier State
 
You've got me thinking now of what I can do with some on my current system (W-10)!

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Mar 16, 2017 16:50:06   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Virgil wrote:
You've got me thinking now of what I can do with some on my current system (W-10)!


There's a lot of places to give you tips on command line batch programming on modern Windows (including Win10). Go for it!👍 Then there's Power Shell scripting, but that's a different subject 😛!

And if using a VM (virtual machine) to "experiment" on, there's no real damage!


Somehow it's satisfying to get back to the basics, I'm glad that I started using computers before GUIs made things easy (I do like easy though). knowing that command line is nothing to "fear" helped me to not be "afraid" to play with Linux as well.

"Cooking your own" is satisfying even if it just some BASIC code or batch files.

It is also why some of us still occasionally shoot film ,process and print ourselves!

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Mar 21, 2017 23:46:55   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Do we know why they skipped Win 9??

What will the next Windows be called? {sounds like one of those SAT pattern recognizing questions}

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