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No color film in 1973
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Mar 16, 2017 11:00:03   #
tstear22 Loc: UT USA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
It's certainly been established that color film was available well before the time period of this film. The only question is whether it is reasonable that a photojournalist would be shooting B&W film at that time, and I think that has been established as well.


Perfectly stated. Thanks for your comments.

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Mar 16, 2017 11:06:30   #
BebuLamar
 
Peterff wrote:
Err, no.


Sorry I guess not everybody has the memory like me!

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Mar 16, 2017 11:23:47   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Sorry I guess not everybody has the memory like me!


That could be a good thing!

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Mar 16, 2017 12:26:50   #
SteveTog Loc: Philly
 
Suddenly I feel very old.

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Mar 18, 2017 01:01:39   #
DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area
 
burkphoto wrote:
That's all good. What I meant about the officers is the inevitable, "Soldier, why are you filming the firefight instead of firing that weapon?" question. It's one thing if the army assigns you to document a battle, but quite another if you were ordered to fight it. Somehow, I don't think Lt. Calley would have let anyone who filmed the atrocities at My Lai in Viet Nam get out with that film... the massacre would have been revealed earlier, had there been any surviving photographic documentation.

Processing really was key to the scarcity of color from WWII. Kodachrome was a *very* complex process that involved removing a jet-black carbon backing from the film before it was processed, and "selective re-exposure" to red and blue light during development. Equipment was highly specialized. Temperature control was critical. Some variations of the process ran for over an hour and a half. The Kodak guys I knew recommended ± about 1/4°F, and that is hard to maintain anywhere, let alone in a war zone. Significant lab volume was required to keep the process economically viable, which is why it died. There are rumors of its rebirth, but...
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When I took two photography courses in college circa 1969, I used B&W because of this issue. You only needed to hold your solution temperatures at +/- 2 degrees F, and it was around 72 degrees (room temperature), while color was +/- 1/4 degree as you note, which made it impractical in my dark room (my parent's kitchen). You could also get very creative with B&W with your printing (exposure, different papers with different contrasts, etc.).

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Mar 18, 2017 07:50:10   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DJphoto wrote:
When I took two photography courses in college circa 1969, I used B&W because of this issue. You only needed to hold your solution temperatures at +/- 2 degrees F, and it was around 72 degrees (room temperature), while color was +/- 1/4 degree as you note, which made it impractical in my dark room (my parent's kitchen). You could also get very creative with B&W with your printing (exposure, different papers with different contrasts, etc.).


I had 5 bathroom and 2 kitchen darkroom setups over the years. I did temperature control with a large plastic tub of water surrounding my tank and solution bottles. It was good for +/- 1 degree most of the time. Washes were at city water temp in summer, but I could temper them in winter.

I pushed film quite often. That's where you lose latitude and have to be careful with time, temp, and agitation technique.

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