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Feb 24, 2017 09:29:42   #
daf40 Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
If you're not physically fit, don't hike to the bottom of Ubehebe Crater. Wherever you go, take lots of water (even in November). Suggest that you start well before sunrise. Death Valley is a huge park and it's a long drive between destinations. Mid-day might be a good time to take a nap so you can do more shooting around sunrise and sunset.

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Feb 24, 2017 10:16:18   #
Arca
 
So far no one has mentioned Darwin Falls. It is the only waterfall that I have been to in DVNP. It is about one mile in each direction and this is not a strenuous hike except for a couple of stream crossings, depending on the height of the water at the time. It is virtually always in shade. Do not forget the kilns at about 9,000 feet. These are driven to as well. But you do have to watch the altitude as air is quite thin. You will need a flash if you plan on taking any pictures inside the kilns, (there are several as I recall) and they are blackened on the inside from the materials that were burned inside them. These are on the Panamint Mountainside. The road to them is very nice and I recall there being a gas station along the way.

The park is huge, the largest in the country, in terms of geographic distances (outside of Denali NP.) So you will be using plenty of gas getting from one location to another. Gasoline in the park is very expensive, you pay for the convenience of having it in the park, instead of driving 75 miles or more r/t to get some outside of the park.

The road to racetrack used to be horrible, about ten years ago, but about five years ago, it had been vastly improved. It is comprised of limestone stones as we used to put in our driveway in Illinois, the size that kids throw, not tiny 1/4 minus gravel.

Campgrounds at 'Furnace Creek' are wonderful with great facilities. There are a couple of nice restaurants in the park in the vicinity.

Enjoy.

Arcz

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Feb 24, 2017 10:29:35   #
Hornet Driver Loc: So. California
 
We generally devote a complete day or more to each end of the Valley. Titus Canyon is an easy and interesting drive - check with the Ranger for conditions. Be prepared for wind. Been there many times and always had one day of strong wind.

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Feb 24, 2017 10:38:11   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Lance Pearson wrote:
at 70 from a fellow septogenarian, try not to let the place live up to its name, emerge four days later vertical and remembering your name! LOL. Sounds fantastic. I'm jealous but the flowers on the desert when it rains is an amazing thing if you could go earlier.


Lance that thought crossed my mine. I'm going with John Batdorff workshop out of Chicago and they already "suggested" I not take the steep climb at night into the dunes; instead stay on the small dunes to the East. That works for me! Appreciate your humor. Thanks George

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Feb 24, 2017 10:45:06   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Robert Bailey wrote:
When I was there, I found the best shooting was when the sun was low in the sky- early morning, or late afternoon.
Around noon, when the sun was high, and shadows were small, I didn't shoot much.


Thanks for looking in Robert. The schedule indicates we will be shooting each day at sunrise and sunset to get the best light. I personally like to shoot at that time of day although on some trips I've had to shoot with the sun straight up. Thanks for your help....George

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Feb 24, 2017 10:55:25   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
BobHartung wrote:
The places you have listed will offer no barrier to access for an average 70 year old. It may take a little longer to get from point A to point B, but that's okay.

IMHO the Mesquite Dunes are better if you walk straight east from the parking lot into the smaller dunes. You'll still get a workout but there are innumerable opportunities.

Also best extend you time. You need to be in the dunes well before sunrise to find a good spot and get set for that magic moment. Likewise you can stay in until after sunset, just have a compass in case there is no moon to give you directional clues.

I always spend mid day cooling my heels, downloading, and napping.
The places you have listed will offer no barrier t... (show quote)


Thanks Bob. That's good information. Do you remember how far it is in to the smaller dunes? As a kid I climbed dunes and know it can be hard going. It is my understanding we will be going in to catch the sunset. Should be fun! Unfortunately, we won't be given much time to nap. Thanks for your help....George

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Feb 24, 2017 11:05:47   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
a bit driving from one place to another, and the hiking can be challenging because of rocks. It was everything I imagined it would be, otherworldly. You will love the Mesquite Dunes and Zabriskie Point. Artist's Palette
was closed because the road had washed out. What I saw from the highway was pretty amazing though, gorgeous colors. Have a wonderful trip![/quote]the

Thanks you JaneA for the Golden Canyon suggestion. Hope we have time! Also, the road into Artist's Palette will hopefully be opened by November. I read on Google that the road into Scotty's Castle was closed several years ago. Don't know if that is true! Appreciate your comment very much....George

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Feb 24, 2017 11:13:47   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Teton Viewer wrote:
How are the wildflowers this year? I've heard they're great again, as last year. I don't believe there have been "superblooms," as they're called, in two consecutive years within anyone's memory. I've been to DV every spring for about 35 years and am on my way now.

The road to Scotty's is also currently closed (washouts), as are many of the jeep roads into the back country. I would think it would be open by November but it's always good to check road conditions before setting out to a specific location. To the OP, have a great trip. This is a very special place - one of the highpoints of my year is the annual trip there.
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Thank you for your comment Teton Viewer. You are very fortunate to visit the park every year. What a treat! I'm looking forward to the visit next November for the first time. Maybe the last time at my age.

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Feb 24, 2017 11:22:18   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
Agree with the above that all of the spots can be reached by car and readily walked to for photo ops. The road to Racetrack is covered with sharp stones, however, and a flat tire is a possibility. Expensive event in a rental vehicle.


Appeciate the help. We have a dedicated driver and it is my understanding very good at changing tires. Thanks.....George

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Feb 24, 2017 11:30:30   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
shutterbob wrote:
Comfortable time of year in the park. All the points you mentioned are relatively easy to access. Racetrack is a bit of a tough drive. Word of warning....the ravens will destroy almost anything you leave unattended at Scotty's Castle, including ice chests, soft convertable car tops, jackets, camera cases, etc. They are intelligent and inquisitive. Also fun to watch and photograph. Zabriskie Point needs to be done at sunrise as colors are best at that time. Don't miss Dante's View, also to be done at either end of the day. Enjoy. It is a strikingly stark and beautiful place to photograph.
Comfortable time of year in the park. All the poin... (show quote)


Wow I would like to leave right now. Thanks shutterbob for the excellent info. Had not heard about the ravens at Scotty's Castle. The tour I'm with visit the park every year and go to Racetrack. Sounds tough on the kidneys'! Thanks for your help...George

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Feb 24, 2017 11:30:42   #
CMH
 
Its been years since I was in the valley but the most recent National Geographic photography course DVD's indicate that it has not changed much. You might want to look up their "Guide to Landscape and Wildlife Photography" DVD set which has a segment specifically speaking to the valley. I used to know Zabriskie well and would suggest that you try to get there on or around full moon which is on the 10th in November. Moonset is 6:24 and sunrise is 6:40 which should work out very well. As I recall, the parking lot just off Rt 190 is an easy spot and as good a place to shoot from as anywhere in the Zabriskie area.

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Feb 24, 2017 11:49:23   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
CMH wrote:
Its been years since I was in the valley but the most recent National Geographic photography course DVD's indicate that it has not changed much. You might want to look up their "Guide to Landscape and Wildlife Photography" DVD set which has a segment specifically speaking to the valley. I used to know Zabriskie well and would suggest that you try to get there on or around full moon which is on the 10th in November. Moonset is 6:24 and sunrise is 6:40 which should work out very well. As I recall, the parking lot just off Rt 190 is an easy spot and as good a place to shoot from as anywhere in the Zabriskie area.
Its been years since I was in the valley but the m... (show quote)


Thank you CMH for the DVD suggestion. I will look it up, also we will be in the valley from Nov 8 - 12, which will catch the full moon. Appreciate your help. George

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Feb 24, 2017 11:51:40   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
Teton Viewer wrote:
How are the wildflowers this year? I've heard they're great again, as last year. I don't believe there have been "superblooms," as they're called, in two consecutive years within anyone's memory. I've been to DV every spring for about 35 years and am on my way now.
......


It is still a bit early for wildflowers. Some are just starting to bloom, but nothing big yet. DesertUSA has it at only a 1 on a 10 point scale. Reports are that they are not expecting another "super bloom" this year, but still should get some nice shows. It rained just recently, so if temperatures warm up over the next month there should be some good flowers mid to late March. For those interested, here is a link to wildflower updates for DV and other southwestern locations.

http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca_dv.html

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Feb 24, 2017 11:58:11   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Arca wrote:
So far no one has mentioned Darwin Falls. It is the only waterfall that I have been to in DVNP. It is about one mile in each direction and this is not a strenuous hike except for a couple of stream crossings, depending on the height of the water at the time. It is virtually always in shade. Do not forget the kilns at about 9,000 feet. These are driven to as well. But you do have to watch the altitude as air is quite thin. You will need a flash if you plan on taking any pictures inside the kilns, (there are several as I recall) and they are blackened on the inside from the materials that were burned inside them. These are on the Panamint Mountainside. The road to them is very nice and I recall there being a gas station along the way.

The park is huge, the largest in the country, in terms of geographic distances (outside of Denali NP.) So you will be using plenty of gas getting from one location to another. Gasoline in the park is very expensive, you pay for the convenience of having it in the park, instead of driving 75 miles or more r/t to get some outside of the park.

The road to racetrack used to be horrible, about ten years ago, but about five years ago, it had been vastly improved. It is comprised of limestone stones as we used to put in our driveway in Illinois, the size that kids throw, not tiny 1/4 minus gravel.

Campgrounds at 'Furnace Creek' are wonderful with great facilities. There are a couple of nice restaurants in the park in the vicinity.

Enjoy.

Arcz
So far no one has mentioned Darwin Falls. It is t... (show quote)


The group is with johnbatdorff photography out of Chicago so we won't have to worry about running out of gas. That's their responsibility which makes it nice. They also change tires which is even better. Thanks for your post....George

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Feb 24, 2017 12:09:11   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Hornet Driver wrote:
We generally devote a complete day or more to each end of the Valley. Titus Canyon is an easy and interesting drive - check with the Ranger for conditions. Be prepared for wind. Been there many times and always had one day of strong wind.


Thanks Hornet Driver. Will use a light weight tripod which may be a problem in strong wind. However, I can hand hold if necessary with my Can 6D, which works well in low light conditions. Appreciate your help......George

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