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Feb 20, 2017 07:28:42   #
Po1949
 
I recently received a Canon mirrorless digital camera for Christmas and found out you need a lens adaptor. I found an off brand on line (MOJO for EF-M EOS M )for 1/4 the price of a Canon. Will the quality be the same as the Canon?

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Feb 20, 2017 07:32:48   #
Wilderness Images Loc: Apache Junction, AZ.
 
Po1949 wrote:
I recently received a Canon mirrorless digital camera for Christmas and found out you need a lens adaptor. I found an off brand on line (MOJO for EF-M EOS M )for 1/4 the price of a Canon. Will the quality be the same as the Canon?
I bought the Vello LAE-CM-CEF, it may not be the same Canon quality but it works just fine.

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Feb 20, 2017 07:37:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Po1949 wrote:
I recently received a Canon mirrorless digital camera for Christmas and found out you need a lens adaptor. I found an off brand on line (MOJO for EF-M EOS M )for 1/4 the price of a Canon. Will the quality be the same as the Canon?


My guess, probably not, especially since I can't find online articles and reviews about it. I'd spend the extra money for the Canon adapter.


"...Image Stabilization, apertures and autofocus all work perfectly with this adapter."

http://kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-m/adapter-m.htm

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Feb 21, 2017 12:25:30   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Po1949 wrote:
I recently received a Canon mirrorless digital camera for Christmas and found out you need a lens adaptor. I found an off brand on line (MOJO for EF-M EOS M )for 1/4 the price of a Canon. Will the quality be the same as the Canon?


With Canon there are no mechanical linkages to worry about. So if all the electric connections are there all should work just fine as the camera will know what lens is mounted. The only issue would possibly be is the physical quality of the machining of the adapter and meeting the required tolerances for mounting etc.
Give it a try. If it works then great.

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Feb 21, 2017 18:30:19   #
royb_36-cox.net Loc: Phoenix
 
Architect1776 wrote:
With Canon there are no mechanical linkages to worry about. So if all the electric connections are there all should work just fine as the camera will know what lens is mounted. The only issue would possibly be is the physical quality of the machining of the adapter and meeting the required tolerances for mounting etc.
Give it a try. If it works then great.


In addition, unlike the adaptors for Canon DSLR cameras to use their older manual focus lenses, the Canon mirrorless camera adaptors for EF and EF-S lenses do not contain any optical elements.

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Feb 21, 2017 18:40:25   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
royb_36-cox.net wrote:
In addition, unlike the adaptors for Canon DSLR cameras to use their older manual focus lenses, the Canon mirrorless camera adaptors for EF and EF-S lenses do not contain any optical elements.


Just to add to that, there are adapters for the older FD /FL lenses that don't need an optical element either for the mirrorless cameras.

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Feb 21, 2017 18:44:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
royb_36-cox.net wrote:
In addition, unlike the adaptors for Canon DSLR cameras to use their older manual focus lenses, the Canon mirrorless camera adaptors for EF and EF-S lenses do not contain any optical elements.


I know, my wife got me one for Christmas.
I am waiting to rent the M5 until the weather gets warm, then get one for a week and use all my old FD, FL and R lenses on it.

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Feb 21, 2017 20:51:59   #
dpswbab
 
Actually, you don't need an adapter if you use one of the very few m-mount lenses. You only need one to use ef and efs lenses.

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Feb 21, 2017 22:32:06   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
dpswbab wrote:
Actually, you don't need an adapter if you use one of the very few m-mount lenses. You only need one to use ef and efs lenses.


Actually you need one for anything that is not an EF-M lens, unless I have completely failed to understand the situation. In the Canon realm you can get adapeters for EF, EF-S, and FD. Nikon and Pentax and other format adapters are available. The mirrorless form factor brings many things into play, but they do need adapters.

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Feb 21, 2017 23:57:36   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Peterff wrote:
Actually you need one for anything that is not an EF-M lens, unless I have completely failed to understand the situation. In the Canon realm you can get adapters for EF, EF-S, and FD. Nikon and Pentax and other format adapters are available. The mirrorless form factor brings many things into play, but they do need adapters.
I'm guessing, though, that EF and EF-S lenses will work as well on an EOS-M as they do on a Rebel, while KAF3-mount lenses will not work as well on an EOS-M as they do on my K-30,

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Feb 22, 2017 00:23:15   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
rehess wrote:
I'm guessing, though, that EF and EF-S lenses will work as well on an EOS-M as they do on a Rebel, while KAF3-mount lenses will not work as well on an EOS-M as they do on my K-30,


I haven't tried, so I can't speak to the practice, although I expect that you may well be correct. If Canon can't do Canon on Canon mirrorless then they have a problem. I've also seen a rumor that Pentax may be introducing a mirrorless body -maybe they have and I missed it - but for a Pentax guy with Pentax lenses, I'd start with Pentax. It may still need some kind of adapter, perhaps.

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Feb 22, 2017 06:24:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Peterff wrote:
I haven't tried, so I can't speak to the practice, although I expect that you may well be correct. If Canon can't do Canon on Canon mirrorless then they have a problem. I've also seen a rumor that Pentax may be introducing a mirrorless body -maybe they have and I missed it - but for a Pentax guy with Pentax lenses, I'd start with Pentax. It may still need some kind of adapter, perhaps.


I would imagine any mirrorless camera using (D)SLR lenses will need an adapter if it is made compact as is the premises of mirrorless design. Otherwise the camera would be the same thickness and size as a (D)SLR and defeat the purpose of going Mirrorless.

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Feb 22, 2017 12:09:24   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I would imagine any mirrorless camera using (D)SLR lenses will need an adapter if it is made compact as is the premises of mirrorless design. Otherwise the camera would be the same thickness and size as a (D)SLR and defeat the purpose of going Mirrorless.


Exactly. It is the nature of the beast.

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Feb 22, 2017 14:05:24   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Peterff wrote:
I haven't tried, so I can't speak to the practice, although I expect that you may well be correct. If Canon can't do Canon on Canon mirrorless then they have a problem. I've also seen a rumor that Pentax may be introducing a mirrorless body -maybe they have and I missed it - but for a Pentax guy with Pentax lenses, I'd start with Pentax. It may still need some kind of adapter, perhaps.
Architect1776 wrote:
I would imagine any mirrorless camera using (D)SLR lenses will need an adapter if it is made compact as is the premises of mirrorless design. Otherwise the camera would be the same thickness and size as a (D)SLR and defeat the purpose of going Mirrorless.

One area of inquiry that will be pursued by Pentax Forum representatives at CP+ is whether MILC has a future at Pentax. Several years have passed since last refresh of the "Q" system, so they may be just working down the inventory of it. No MILC with larger sensors is currently in production.

One big area of discussion at the Pentax Forum is what a Pentax APS/FF MILC would look like. My observation is that opinion is split roughly 50-50, with some wanting/expecting a K-mount and some wanting/expecting a KM-mount {similar in execution to what Canon is doing with EOS-M}

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Feb 22, 2017 15:21:08   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rehess wrote:
One area of inquiry that will be pursued by Pentax Forum representatives at CP+ is whether MILC has a future at Pentax. Several years have passed since last refresh of the "Q" system, so they may be just working down the inventory of it. No MILC with larger sensors is currently in production.

One big area of discussion at the Pentax Forum is what a Pentax APS/FF MILC would look like. My observation is that opinion is split roughly 50-50, with some wanting/expecting a K-mount and some wanting/expecting a KM-mount {similar in execution to what Canon is doing with EOS-M}
One area of inquiry that will be pursued by Pentax... (show quote)


Silly with a K mount though but stranger things happen in cameras like some old Canon flops that were well engineered but failed in the market place.

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