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Chemistry Expert: Carbon Dioxide can't cause Global Warming
Feb 12, 2017 22:30:57   #
Wenonah Loc: Winona, MN
 
Interesting reading:

http://principia-scientific.org/chemistry-expert-carbon-dioxide-cant-cause-global-warming/

http://principia-scientific.org/climate-fraud-exposed-co2-doesnt-rise-trap-retain-heat/

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Feb 12, 2017 22:43:23   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
It's not just the specific heat of the two different molecules ... it has to do with the PHYSICS of the radiant energy ... a little bit like how the inside of your car is much hotter than the outside air ... the short wavelengths come through the glass ... warm up the surfaces inside ... and then the longer IR radiation cannot as easily pass back through the glass and is trapped....

https://www.princeton.edu/geosciences/people/bender/CO2Sampling/climate.xml

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Feb 12, 2017 22:54:07   #
Wenonah Loc: Winona, MN
 
timspix wrote:
It's not just the specific heat of the two different molecules ... it has to do with the PHYSICS of the radiant energy ... a little bit like how the inside of your car is much hotter than the outside air ... the short wavelengths come through the glass ... warm up the surfaces inside ... and then the longer IR radiation cannot as easily pass back through the glass and is trapped....

https://www.princeton.edu/geosciences/people/bender/CO2Sampling/climate.xml


So how deep into the ocean does the heat penetrate?

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Feb 12, 2017 23:19:43   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
Doesn't have to warm the ocean ... once the radiant energy hits the surface of the ocean it changes from short wavelength light to longer wavelength Infra Red ... the infra red (heat) is then not able to radiate back out into space.

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Feb 13, 2017 11:47:23   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Thanks for sharing.

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Feb 13, 2017 16:34:35   #
Wenonah Loc: Winona, MN
 
timspix wrote:
It's not just the specific heat of the two different molecules ... it has to do with the PHYSICS of the radiant energy ... a little bit like how the inside of your car is much hotter than the outside air ... the short wavelengths come through the glass ... warm up the surfaces inside ... and then the longer IR radiation cannot as easily pass back through the glass and is trapped....

https://www.princeton.edu/geosciences/people/bender/CO2Sampling/climate.xml


Just to be clear, are you refuting the claims in those articles?

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Feb 13, 2017 19:08:37   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
In 2013, Principia Scientific International (PSI) also began to promote unfounded claims that wind turbines make people sick and that childhood vaccines were “one of the largest most evil lies in history.

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Feb 13, 2017 19:52:25   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
Yes ... I most assuredly am refuting the "Principia" articles claiming that CO2 is not involved with Climate Change ... YES INDEED ... that I am.

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Feb 13, 2017 20:05:26   #
Wenonah Loc: Winona, MN
 
timspix wrote:
Yes ... I most assuredly am refuting the "Principia" articles claiming that CO2 is not involved with Climate Change ... YES INDEED ... that I am.


Okay, just checking. To me, what they say makes sense.

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Feb 13, 2017 20:15:55   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
timspix wrote:
Yes ... I most assuredly am refuting the "Principia" articles claiming that CO2 is not involved with Climate Change ... YES INDEED ... that I am.


The big question is "how much?" The fact that "warmists" are beginning to focus on methane as a contributor hints to me that they are not so convinced that their models are so valid anymore.

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Feb 13, 2017 20:50:05   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
davefales wrote:
The big question is "how much?" The fact that "warmists" are beginning to focus on methane as a contributor hints to me that they are not so convinced that their models are so valid anymore.



It's called grasping at straws.

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