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Feb 12, 2017 10:38:36   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 lens to give Astro photography a try....I've looked in the astrophotography section but there is so much...didn't find a clear cut answer.....so here is my question.

Does everyone that shoots Astro photography shoot RAW images all the time? I know that you can do a lot more with a RAW image in post processing but I know nothing about shooting raw or post processing. And I have no one that I can refer to that's nearby to help me. I've gone on you tube where there are helpful videos but most are as clear as mud.....

Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image.
Just give me an idea.........
Thanks
Pam

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Feb 12, 2017 10:47:37   #
JPL
 
You never get good results with astro photography shooting in Jpeg. So use Raw.

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Feb 12, 2017 10:53:02   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes: "Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image."

Generally, I shoot in the RAW file format, but lately I've been shooting in the JPEG file format using my Canon G9 X point-and-shoot camera (although it can capture RAW files). The JPEG files from this camera come out very close in faithfulness to the subject. I open these files in the Adobe Camera Raw editing program to fix them there, after which I open these files in Photoshop proper to finish them. I find myself satisfied with the outcome this way.

Even if you do not yet know how to shoot in RAW mode or to process RAW files, you can still set your camera to capture images in both of these file formats.

Then later, when you have the camera and editing skills for RAW files, you can revisit your images in the RAW file format to develop them, if you wish.

Good luck.
Chicopee wrote:
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 lens to give Astro photography a try....I've looked in the astrophotography section but there is so much...didn't find a clear cut answer.....so here is my question.

Does everyone that shoots Astro photography shoot RAW images all the time? I know that you can do a lot more with a RAW image in post processing but I know nothing about shooting raw or post processing. And I have no one that I can refer to that's nearby to help me. I've gone on you tube where there are helpful videos but most are as clear as mud.....

Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image.
Just give me an idea.........
Thanks
Pam
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 le... (show quote)

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Feb 12, 2017 11:12:20   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
My Non-Raw processing self will tell you that ....as complicated
and involved that the people who create these Raw-processing
programs may make it all sound, they do have Auto-this and Auto-that
buttons that do give you a baseline to start with and from.....just like
the complicated cameras on the market have all those settings and programs.

What I am basically saying is ......jump in and you will be surprised that you don't
actually get swallowed up by dark side ! .....not right-away at least !

I also know nothing about the Lens you are focused on right now, the Rokinon 14 mm F2.8 lens,
But if it suits your fancy, just buy it....doesn't look like it will break the bank !

I do say ....go for Astro photography, I see some great pictures now and then !

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Feb 12, 2017 11:29:13   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
JPL wrote:
You never get good results with astro photography shooting in Jpeg. So use Raw.


Thanks! I can see the majority lean toward raw.....I may shoot both and eventually give it a try. appreciate help.

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Feb 12, 2017 11:30:27   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
anotherview wrote:
Yes: "Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image."

Generally, I shoot in the RAW file format, but lately I've been shooting in the JPEG file format using my Canon G9 X point-and-shoot camera (although it can capture RAW files). The JPEG files from this camera come out very close in faithfulness to the subject. I open these files in the Adobe Camera Raw editing program to fix them there, after which I open these files in Photoshop proper to finish them. I find myself satisfied with the outcome this way.

Even if you do not yet know how to shoot in RAW mode or to process RAW files, you can still set your camera to capture images in both of these file formats.

Then later, when you have the camera and editing skills for RAW files, you can revisit your images in the RAW file format to develop them, if you wish.

Good luck.
Yes: "Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and... (show quote)


Thanks for the help....I will look into the Adobe Camera Raw editing program....no doubt its a part of Photo shop....I use Photo Elements 11 and Faststone.....I may have to 'upgrade'.....thanks again.

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Feb 12, 2017 11:32:39   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
TucsonCoyote wrote:
My Non-Raw processing self will tell you that ....as complicated
and involved that the people who create these Raw-processing
programs may make it all sound, they do have Auto-this and Auto-that
buttons that do give you a baseline to start with and from.....just like
the complicated cameras on the market have all those settings and programs.

What I am basically saying is ......jump in and you will be surprised that you don't
actually get swallowed up by dark side ! .....not right-away at least !

I also know nothing about the Lens you are focused on right now, the Rokinon 14 mm F2.8 lens,
But if it suits your fancy, just buy it....doesn't look like it will break the bank !

I do say ....go for Astro photography, I see some great pictures now and then !
My Non-Raw processing self will tell you that ....... (show quote)


Thanks TucsonCoyote! I've watched a couple of you tube videos re: this lens and AP. Interesting results w/ this lens and it doesn't break the bank! So I will probably hold my nose and take that leap in!

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Feb 12, 2017 11:33:56   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
anotherview wrote:
Yes: "Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image."

Generally, I shoot in the RAW file format, but lately I've been shooting in the JPEG file format using my Canon G9 X point-and-shoot camera (although it can capture RAW files). The JPEG files from this camera come out very close in faithfulness to the subject. I open these files in the Adobe Camera Raw editing program to fix them there, after which I open these files in Photoshop proper to finish them. I find myself satisfied with the outcome this way.

Even if you do not yet know how to shoot in RAW mode or to process RAW files, you can still set your camera to capture images in both of these file formats.

Then later, when you have the camera and editing skills for RAW files, you can revisit your images in the RAW file format to develop them, if you wish.

Good luck.
Yes: "Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and... (show quote)


Thanks anotherview........encouraging words!

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Feb 12, 2017 11:45:33   #
snfapm1983
 
Check out this guy's website!! He is Radiologist in CT.

http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/

And his bio, very impressive.

http://mstecker.com/pages/appgendler.htm

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Feb 12, 2017 12:10:17   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
snfapm1983 wrote:
Check out this guy's website!! He is Radiologist in CT.

http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/

And his bio, very impressive.

http://mstecker.com/pages/appgendler.htm


Yes indeed! Bio is impressive as is the amt of information here~ thanks~

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Feb 13, 2017 06:46:54   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
I just did a series of photos of my grandson in front of the rising moon at sunset. Selected RAW + Jpeg. Them worked both on the selected shot. The jpegs had clumping which I believe is called "jpd artifacts" while the processed RAW files were smoother. With most of my subjects the jpeg is about equal to my "worked" RAW hence, I capture both for those times when I need RAW.
Chicopee wrote:
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 lens to give Astro photography a try....I've looked in the astrophotography section but there is so much...didn't find a clear cut answer.....so here is my question.

Does everyone that shoots Astro photography shoot RAW images all the time? I know that you can do a lot more with a RAW image in post processing but I know nothing about shooting raw or post processing. And I have no one that I can refer to that's nearby to help me. I've gone on you tube where there are helpful videos but most are as clear as mud.....

Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image.
Just give me an idea.........
Thanks
Pam
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 le... (show quote)

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Feb 13, 2017 07:41:59   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
This is not a yes or no question. You'd get more results if you used a title that reflects more about the subject. As far as the Roknon goes - NO it's junk
As far as astrophotography goes, yes, shoot raw
As far as extracting a decent image from a JPEG, yes, you can but not all the time.

Chicopee wrote:
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 lens to give Astro photography a try....I've looked in the astrophotography section but there is so much...didn't find a clear cut answer.....so here is my question.

Does everyone that shoots Astro photography shoot RAW images all the time? I know that you can do a lot more with a RAW image in post processing but I know nothing about shooting raw or post processing. And I have no one that I can refer to that's nearby to help me. I've gone on you tube where there are helpful videos but most are as clear as mud.....

Or is it possible to shoot in JPEG and extract from the photo in post processing a decent image.
Just give me an idea.........
Thanks
Pam
I am considering purchasing a Roknon 14 mm F2.8 le... (show quote)

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Feb 13, 2017 07:47:07   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
I just did a series of photos of my grandson in front of the rising moon at sunset. Selected RAW + Jpeg. Them worked both on the selected shot. The jpegs had clumping which I believe is called "jpd artifacts" while the processed RAW files were smoother. With most of my subjects the jpeg is about equal to my "worked" RAW hence, I capture both for those times when I need RAW.


Thank your Don for sharing this . Others experiences are helpful .

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Feb 13, 2017 07:48:55   #
Chicopee Loc: NY State, USA
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
This is not a yes or no question. You'd get more results if you used a title that reflects more about the subject. As far as the Roknon goes - NO it's junk
As far as astrophotography goes, yes, shoot raw
As far as extracting a decent image from a JPEG, yes, you can but not all the time.


Thank you for your criticism, and your help. I do know that there are some of those lenses that slipped by quality control and you can run the risk of getting a bad one, but you can get a good one also. So for my income is certainly worth a try .

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Feb 13, 2017 07:50:58   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
This is not a yes or no question. You'd get more results if you used a title that reflects more about the subject. As far as the Roknon goes - NO it's junk
As far as astrophotography goes, yes, shoot raw
As far as extracting a decent image from a JPEG, yes, you can but not all the time.


Given that this Samyang (Rokinon et al) lens has some pretty good reviews, what makes you think that it is junk?

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