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Jan 31, 2017 18:21:23   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Adobe has Lightroom and Photoshop. Soon a third editor is coming. Adobe "Nimbus" was previewed at Adobe's MAX conference.

The following are culled statements made by people that went to the Adobe Max conference and wrote about it.

-> takes away a lot of the complexity of Adobe’s flagship photo-managing and editing application
-> simpler, smarter tools
-> meant to work seamlessly with the rest of its tools
-> users should be able to seamlessly move back and forth between the desktop and mobile.
-> makes use of Adobe’s new machine learning-based services
-> artificial intelligence service to power features like Nimbus’ photo retouching tools.
-> Adobe could position Nimbus as a more consumer-oriented version of Lightroom.
-> takes away complexities of image editing
-> works like Lightroom in that image editing is non-destructive
-> is a “cloud-native” app, which means that you can carry your work with you wherever you go.
-> Adobe says the transition will be seamless.
-> building on Lightroom to deliver a complete cloud-native photography service that is available across desktop, web and mobile
-> full resolution raw editing and sharing
-> not just your files stored in the cloud, but your edits too
-> Non-destructive – edits that can always be reverted
-> utilizes the Camera Raw engine
-> edit section looks like Lightroom with sliders
-> everything done on one device is duplicated on the others
-> a Lightroom-like tool that mates the accessibility of Adobe’s mobile offerings with the power of the desktop
-> previews this year

What do you think? What will it be? Will it be part of the CC subscription?

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Jan 31, 2017 18:25:27   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
This maybe something I predicted a long time ago: The merging of LR and Bridge. They are complementary and both are parts of the same subscription.

Time will tell.

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Jan 31, 2017 18:44:40   #
whitewolfowner
 
I think with it, one will be totally trusting Adobe to keep all their photographic endeavors safe. Adobe will have total control of them and you will be totally at their mercy. No thanks; I'll keep the control of my stuff and keep it safe myself; even if it means cutting the cord to the internet where all my work is done. Enough is enough with this globalist crap for me.

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Jan 31, 2017 18:47:06   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
Bsprague - Adobe seems to be moving more and more toward selling their products via subscription. BTW, Microsoft is doing the same thing with Office. Several of the features you describe above (and thanks for the preview), such as '"everything done on one device is duplicated" (via the cloud) on all other devices' will clearly be a subscription cloud-based feature. Not too happy about this turn of events, 'cause I prefer to use freestanding apps, but I may have to get used to it. Arghh!

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Jan 31, 2017 20:09:46   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
rjaywallace wrote:
Bsprague - Adobe seems to be moving more and more toward selling their products via subscription. BTW, Microsoft is doing the same thing with Office. Several of the features you describe above (and thanks for the preview), such as '"everything done on one device is duplicated" (via the cloud) on all other devices' will clearly be a subscription cloud-based feature. Not too happy about this turn of events, 'cause I prefer to use freestanding apps, but I may have to get used to it. Arghh!
Bsprague - Adobe seems to be moving more and more ... (show quote)

Adobe announced last month that all their products will be subscription. There is no surprise here.

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Jan 31, 2017 20:50:53   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bsprague wrote:
Adobe has Lightroom and Photoshop. Soon a third editor is coming. Adobe "Nimbus" was previewed at Adobe's MAX conference.

The following are culled statements made by people that went to the Adobe Max conference and wrote about it.

-> takes away a lot of the complexity of Adobe’s flagship photo-managing and editing application
-> simpler, smarter tools
-> meant to work seamlessly with the rest of its tools
-> users should be able to seamlessly move back and forth between the desktop and mobile.
-> makes use of Adobe’s new machine learning-based services
-> artificial intelligence service to power features like Nimbus’ photo retouching tools.
-> Adobe could position Nimbus as a more consumer-oriented version of Lightroom.
-> takes away complexities of image editing
-> works like Lightroom in that image editing is non-destructive
-> is a “cloud-native” app, which means that you can carry your work with you wherever you go.
-> Adobe says the transition will be seamless.
-> building on Lightroom to deliver a complete cloud-native photography service that is available across desktop, web and mobile
-> full resolution raw editing and sharing
-> not just your files stored in the cloud, but your edits too
-> Non-destructive – edits that can always be reverted
-> utilizes the Camera Raw engine
-> edit section looks like Lightroom with sliders
-> everything done on one device is duplicated on the others
-> a Lightroom-like tool that mates the accessibility of Adobe’s mobile offerings with the power of the desktop
-> previews this year

What do you think? What will it be? Will it be part of the CC subscription?
Adobe has Lightroom and Photoshop. Soon a third e... (show quote)


Sounds more like a replacement for PSE and offers a "Lightroom Lite" I don't think it is intended to replace the professional tools. Either way, it sounds good -

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Feb 1, 2017 06:06:21   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
Right now, what we need is patience to wait and see. It surely sounds promising though.

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Feb 1, 2017 07:04:27   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
rjaywallace wrote:
Bsprague - Adobe seems to be moving more and more toward selling their products via subscription. BTW, Microsoft is doing the same thing with Office. Several of the features you describe above (and thanks for the preview), such as '"everything done on one device is duplicated" (via the cloud) on all other devices' will clearly be a subscription cloud-based feature. Not too happy about this turn of events, 'cause I prefer to use freestanding apps, but I may have to get used to it. Arghh!
Bsprague - Adobe seems to be moving more and more ... (show quote)


I believe MS may be pulling back from the brink, as they are now offering Windows 10 on a disk at around £100.
The cross-platform photo editor, Affinity, is already available, and has replaced PhotoPlus, which now becomes a Serif legacy app., although still available without support.

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Feb 1, 2017 07:29:51   #
catfish252
 
I think they will combine the most commonly used photo tools in Photoshop with some of the more commonly used Lightroom tools, wrap it up in a new user interface and it will be the new default photography editor for their Cloud offerings(new to amateur photographers). I'm guessing that this new application will be cheaper than the current offering at around $5-7/month and Photoshop/Lightroom will go up to $20-25/month and sold as the Professional Photographer application. Just a WAG.

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Feb 1, 2017 10:24:26   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
bsprague wrote:
Adobe has Lightroom and Photoshop. Soon a third editor is coming. Adobe "Nimbus" was previewed at Adobe's MAX conference.

The following are culled statements made by people that went to the Adobe Max conference and wrote about it.
. . . . .
-> is a “cloud-native” app, which means that you can carry your work with you wherever you go.
. . . . .
-> not just your files stored in the cloud, but your edits too
. . . .

What do you think? What will it be? Will it be part of the CC subscription?
Adobe has Lightroom and Photoshop. Soon a third e... (show quote)


"cloud-native app" and 'files and edits' stored in the cloud are non-starters for me.

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Feb 1, 2017 10:58:03   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Adobe announced last month that all their products will be subscription. There is no surprise here.


Considering how much Adobe is saving by not having to produce CD's, DVD's, manuals, packaging, shipping, storage, printing, etc., they are seeing (maybe setting) the future of software supply. At least, they are (sort of) passing some of the savings on to the users. They are also eliminating or restricting the theft of their software and licenses. Also, they are eliminating having thousands of outdated software sitting in a warehouse because they came out with a newer version. I think that this is one of the reasons that we are seeing Microsoft and other venders moving in the same direction.

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Feb 1, 2017 11:14:28   #
cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX
 
As presently constituted, Lightroom is difficult to use one the road on preexisting images. Lightroom hates duplicates. It also hates when you move or create files outside of Lightroom. While you can increase the size of the preview so that you can work on it in LR on the road, it stops there. You need the file to work in Photoshop or Topaz. You can play with various export but it is clumsy to say the least. Having the photos or at least a copy online might work.

My internet service would have to radically improve for it to work for me. The idea of uploading several terabytes of photos per year is beyond what my poor system can handle. Eventually I would like to see a synchronized system where changes on either my computer system or cloud would be reflected on the other. But internet connections would have to be improved in both speed, cost, and coverage before it is useful for both travel and at home.

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Feb 1, 2017 11:19:47   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
BobHartung wrote:
"cloud-native app" and 'files and edits' stored in the cloud are non-starters for me.


I doubt there's any motive beyond profit!

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Feb 1, 2017 11:22:33   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
cactuspic wrote:
As presently constituted, Lightroom is difficult to use one the road on preexisting images. Lightroom hates duplicates. It also hates when you move or create files outside of Lightroom. While you can increase the size of the preview so that you can work on it in LR on the road, it stops there. You need the file to work in Photoshop or Topaz. You can play with various export but it is clumsy to say the least. Having the photos or at least a copy online might work.

My internet service would have to radically improve for it to work for me. The idea of uploading several terabytes of photos per year is beyond what my poor system can handle. Eventually I would like to see a synchronized system where changes on either my computer system or cloud would be reflected on the other. But internet connections would have to be improved in both speed, cost, and coverage before it is useful for both travel and at home.
As presently constituted, Lightroom is difficult t... (show quote)


I couldn't agree more! If you live away from cable or other high speed internet, cloud is burdensome to use.

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Feb 1, 2017 13:48:22   #
dfrodin Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
 
The only constant is change. Get used to it.

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