Al Freeedman

Burkphoto,

I think the Canon EF-EF-S lenes will work on the M5 with an adapter. Buying an adapter is a lot less then buying a new lens.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Captain AL

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

It is but, there is a difference between native and adapted (size and usually focus speed). That said I did just watch tcstv (the camera store in Calgary has a great YouTube review station) review of the m5 and it looks promising. The review shows someone using a large zoom on it that has been adapted.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

The whole point of mirrorless designs is to save size, bulk, and weight. Adapters are okay in certain situations, but if you're using EF glass, it's just extra weight, and probably isn't balanced (to say nothing of the reduced MTF performance on APS-C when EF lenses are used).

Yes, you save money, but you miss many of the benefits of mirrorless design. That's precisely why I started a new system with native lenses when I left Canikon behind.

markjay

The M5 has virtually the same capabilities of the 80D. Not sure why everyone has the view that it is not a leading mirrorless - unless the expectations are that Canon will come out with something that will blow away all the others. (I agree that Nikon has fallen behind - but that is true it seems about almost everything Nikon). The M5 has not blown away the competition - but it is as good as the competition (certainly with aps sensors). The M lenses are good, incredibly small and light - but I agree they need more. Have you ever picked up a Fuji lens. There are 2 quality points. Glass and construction. Both are excellent - but you get significant weight because of their construction - which seems to defeat the purpose of a mirrorless system. A Fuji Xt-1, (not their heaviest!) with a majority of their lenses, probably weighs more than most DSLR cameras and lenses combined. Its a great system but if you are going mirrorless to save size and weight - it defeats the purpose.
I agree the M5 is not an earth shattering system - but I checked the universe pretty carefully before deciding to buy one. Most of the reviews are not wildly enthusiastic because I think the expectations were too high. But when you actually compare the M5 to any equivalent mirrorless out there, it is just as good or better and a clear sign that Canon is now taking the sector seriously. They do need more M lenses - but anyone in the Canon eco-system should feel good that all Canon lenses can be used.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

I'll gladly go head to head against the M5 with my lowly EM1ii...or even my EM1.

markjay

It was a breakthrough camera 3-4 years ago when released. It is just competitive today - nothing special, and it is a 4/3rds - smaller sensor. I'm sure the pictures are good - but the AF system would not come close to the new AF system in the Canon.
But if you love it - stick with it !

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

You can also use most Canon EF lenses on certain Sony, Panasonic, and Olympus cameras. With the right "smart adapter," you retain ALL automation.

Also, the MetaBones SpeedBoosters work with EF lenses on those cameras, reducing the crop factor and adding 1.0 or 1.33 stops of light intensity.

However, adapted Canon EF lenses are heavy, bulky, and usually more expensive than their native equivalents. That's okay if you already have them, or you're not traveling with them.

I'm sure your M5 will be fine. I do wish Canon speed in developing lenses. I have used lots of Canon gear over the years (FX, A1, 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D, 5D, 7D), and a couple of their industrial strength color copier/printers. Oh, and a GL2 video camera. If they only had been there with mirrorless a few years back...

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

What are you smoking?
Ever hear of firmware upgrades?

tdekany Loc: Oregon

This!!!!

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Olympus and Panasonic does it as well. And with Olympus you get cool new features no other brand offers at any time. But any of these cameras are better than the user. How good your pictures turn out depends on the person behind the camera.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Exactly! To say that m4/3 doesn't print well above 8x10 is ridiculous.

asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA

Well, for $7000 the Leica SL is awfully nice.

markjay

Firmware upgrades dont upgrade 4 year old sensors.
And the new Canon AF system is as good or better than anything else out there.
I dont smoke - but it seems you have smoke coming out where the sun dont shine !
Why do so many people on this site have to be so arrogant. If you have nothing positive to contribute - then go out and take some selfies instead of being nasty in front of everyone on here.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Rain? This is my EM1 and 12-40mm 2.8. Every time I wanted to turn the zoom ring, I had to crack the ice. Once home, I just rinsed it off in the sink and dried it.

Freezing temperatures by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

Wow, 16 posts in, after a hiatus of 25 years of not really shooting and you now own an M5 for what a little over a couple of months and you're now suddenly an expert? I frankly could care less what you're shooting you're the only one that needs to be happy with your gear. I even posted earlier that the m5 looks to be a decent camera.
How about this, since this is photography forum, how about we see some images from that legendary M5.