Pier Remains Billy style: Keeping my ol' mate John company in a pursuit of the ultimate pier support image. For your consideration...

Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

Keeping my ol' mate John company in a pursuit of the ultimate pier support image.
For your consideration

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Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

Sensor spots have been pointed out to me but I was too late to rectify and repost

Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.

Please keep in mind I'm in no way qualified for fota kriteek, strictly my personal opinions. I don't feel this to be one of your better efforts Mr. Spad, doesn't seem like much care at all was put into the presentation. Sensor spots alone as you mention initiate that feeling for me, maybe you were a bit rushed. The image seems to have potential though, as it is well composed from a good perspective. I would suggest more time spent dodging and burning the supports and their reflections on the water rather than emphasizing a vignette, all it does in this case for me is distract from a rather well taken image.....but then you probably already knew all this before posting, leaves me wondering your true intent.

Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas

Billyspad wrote:

Keeping my ol' mate John company in a pursuit of the ultimate pier support image.
For your consideration

I think this is a good picture that with a bit more PP it would be a great picture. When first viewed I see the largest support and then trail off to the distant one. Just what a good composed picture is to do. When looking at it I fell as I could be standing there wondering what once was.
Now if it was mine I would remove the obvious sensor spots and then remove the 2 small jet skis or small boats. When I first looked I wished I saw the last 3-5 supports better and to do this just open up your shadows a bit. I think this would let your eyes linger a bit longer on the photo. I am not fond of the vignetting, the picture is strong without it.

Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

Frank2013 wrote:

Please keep in mind I'm in no way qualified for fo... (show quote)

My intent Frank was as stated to keep young John company in the quest for pier support snaps. This was taken around 6 months ago whilst I visited a friend in a place called Subic Bay where the US once had a naval. Being in company I was just snapping away rather than on fota mode. I actually like to be alone when snapping. I saw these things in the sea with a vista behind them and it was actually an Otis Reading moment ie Siting in the Dock of the Bay. But with company I had no time to sit and think. It comes under the heading of wasted opportunity and came close to being deleted in camera months ago. On reflection that would have been correct decision but here for some reason I broke my own rule and attempted to make something good out of a dud.
Your fota kriteek was spot on my ol' mate.

Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

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I think this is a good picture that with a bit mor... (show quote)

Hya Jim read my reply to Frank and you will gather I think for reasons beyond my control at the time this actually was a wasted fota opportunity. If I ever visit this place again I will get it right. Sometimes one should just be strong and hit the delete button rather than try and convince yourself it is possible to make it into something.

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

May I offer an alternative crop? S-

Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

St3v3M wrote:

May I offer an alternative crop? S-

Anything I post here is in the public domain young Steve and my threads are always open to post what anyone wishes so please go ahead. Just bear in mind if it better than my original I shall pull the bells off your boots!!!!!!

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

Billyspad wrote:

Anything I post here is in the public domain young Steve and my threads are always open to post what anyone wishes so please go ahead. Just bear in mind if it better than my original I shall pull the bells off your boots!!!!!!

Too funny and hope you like it! S-
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Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

St3v3M wrote:

Too funny and hope you like it! S-
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Its certainly enough of an improvement for your boot bells to be in danger of forced removal! What I thought when I looked at it is it needed a long exposure to flatten the water a little maybe one to make it milky looking just to see what it looked like. This would have brought the uprights into prominence. someone has PM'ed me with that self same idea.
Your crop is better than my original but I'm still in the camp of when it aint right just dump it. Thanks for your efforts Steve

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

Billyspad wrote:

Its certainly enough of an improvement for your boot bells to be in danger of forced removal! What I thought when I looked at it is it needed a long exposure to flatten the water a little maybe one to make it milky looking just to see what it looked like. This would have brought the uprights into prominence. someone has PM'ed me with that self same idea.
Your crop is better than my original but I'm still in the camp of when it aint right just dump it. Thanks for your efforts Steve

I'll hold the bells for you as I know you want them! S-

ediesaul

Billyspad wrote:

Keeping my ol' mate John company in a pursuit of the ultimate pier support image.
For your consideration

The leading line is certainly a strong one! I have two comments for your consideration. First, the pier support closest to the viewer is so strong that, in my opinion, it dominates the image. If you would consider cutting the image from the bottom so that the second pier support is the one that the viewer sees in full, the leading line is still there and the first pier support would not hold the viewer's eye back from where the leading line is supposed to lead. Second, my personal preference for such a strong image of a leading line is that a leading line should lead the eye to something that is the focal point of the image. Sometimes, the focal point is a statue, such as in a garden, or a boat or part of a landscape, as could have been in this image. Sometimes, the focal point is just the vastness of space. However, there's nothing in this image, in my opinion, that the leading line leads us to. Don't know if it's the angle of the photo or if there's nothing you could have done about it.

minniev Loc: MIssissippi

Billyspad wrote:

Keeping my ol' mate John company in a pursuit of the ultimate pier support image.
For your consideration

Though Steve's crop improved this image some, I don't know that it rescued it. The structure itself is interesting, but like all broken down piers, it needs something else - a great sky, a cool pelican or whatever water birds you have there, fascinating water features, odd fishing boat - something. It also would benefit from sensor spot attention, less harsh vignetting, and probably another angle. The line of view the structure forces us to follow goes from an awkward upper left to a dark blob on the right. A slow shutter would turn the water to jello and the image into a version of the current fad shot, but might not be enough to solve it without addressing some of the other issues.

John's is more interesting because of the pelicans and the better angle but he does need some room at the top so the birds don't keep banging their heads on the edge.

That said, there is a reason I don't post many broken pier images. They are harder than they look to be.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Thanks, Billy. It's nice to know that someone is keeping me company.

One thing I have learned: If a pier photo is posted, someone--anyone--everyone is going to have a better idea. And that's probably a good thing.

Nice photo, by the way, spots and all.

MattPhox Loc: Rhode Island

I like the original.