Shadow Recovery
Dec 10, 2016 10:34:32 #
Exposed at -2 EV from the camera's base matrix reading. I recovered only enough highlight information to get the blue back in the sky. The rest of the work was done recovering the shadows using Capture One Pro.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
Dec 10, 2016 10:39:41 #
selmslie wrote:
Exposed at -2 EV from the camera's base matrix reading. I recovered only enough highlight information to get the blue back in the sky. The rest of the work was done recovering the shadows using Capture One Pro.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
That's unreal!!!!
Just pulling your leg. Yes, today's cameras have considerable latitude, and the software does a great job at revealing what the camera (and photographer) saw. Nice illustration, Scotty.
Dec 10, 2016 10:45:53 #
I like it but would tone the now overly bright exterior and inner wall a slight amount.
Dec 10, 2016 11:03:41 #
davefales wrote:
I like it but would tone the now overly bright exterior and inner wall a slight amount.
Like this? There possibilities are endless.
I could resort to more drastic PP but it can get tedious.
Dec 10, 2016 11:09:06 #
selmslie wrote:
Exposed at -2 EV from the camera's base matrix reading. I recovered only enough highlight information to get the blue back in the sky. The rest of the work was done recovering the shadows using Capture One Pro.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
Great post, Scotty. I think I always tend to bring back too much of the shadows, when in truth, some of them should be left there. Your example indicates as much. Thanks.
Dec 10, 2016 11:10:05 #
selmslie wrote:
Like this? There possibilities are endless.
I could resort to more drastic PP but it can get tedious.
I could resort to more drastic PP but it can get tedious.
Nicely done.
Dec 10, 2016 11:13:02 #
Do you mean you recorded jpeg and RAW and did the shadow lifting on the RAW image?
Or do you mean you converted the jpeg to RAW and then did the shadow lifting?
Or do you mean you converted the jpeg to RAW and then did the shadow lifting?
Dec 10, 2016 11:14:58 #
brucewells wrote:
Great post, Scotty. I think I always tend to bring back too much of the shadows, when in truth, some of them should be left there. Your example indicates as much. Thanks.
You are right. You can leave some of the detail in the shadows and let the viewer use their imagination. It can make for a stronger composition.
You will also leave the noise in the shadows and not have to worry about removing it.
Dec 10, 2016 11:29:28 #
MtnMan wrote:
Do you mean you recorded jpeg and RAW and did the shadow lifting on the RAW image?
Or do you mean you converted the jpeg to RAW and then did the shadow lifting?
Or do you mean you converted the jpeg to RAW and then did the shadow lifting?
The shadows were recovered from the raw version (you can't convert JPEG to raw).
One of the challenges to under exposing is that the underexposed image may be useless for judging your composition. In this case I took an exposure at EC+0 to check the composition (see attached). The second one at EC-2 was the one I wanted to use for development. This first one was a throw-away.
Take a look at my example on the Further on ISO invariance thread to see how easy it can be to recover highlight and shadow information for a scene with a normal dynamic range.
Dec 10, 2016 11:53:24 #
selmslie wrote:
Exposed at -2 EV from the camera's base matrix reading. I recovered only enough highlight information to get the blue back in the sky. The rest of the work was done recovering the shadows using Capture One Pro.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
Personally I like deep contrast, but we all have our own preferences. Have you considered taking the shot at different exposures and using Photoshop HDR? I take real-estate shots and I take exposures for the bright as well as the dark and merge into HDR. I also take time laps at different time exposures as well.. Love your shot.
Dec 10, 2016 13:19:35 #
canon Lee wrote:
Personally I like deep contrast, but we all have our own preferences. Have you considered taking the shot at different exposures and using Photoshop HDR? I take real-estate shots and I take exposures for the bright as well as the dark and merge into HDR. I also take time laps at different time exposures as well.. Love your shot.
I tried a widely bracketed shot on another opening in the same room but missed the highlights (did not get them dark enough).
I have used Photomatix Pro on occasion but have not had great success. Not so much a problem with the software or knowing how to use it but the results were not pleasing because the scene was not appropriate.
Dec 10, 2016 15:43:05 #
selmslie wrote:
The shadows were recovered from the raw version (y... (show quote)
You can convert jpeg files to the RAW format in Photoshop and Elements using "open as". Of course it does not recover the data lost during jpeg creation. But it does let you edit in ACR.
Dec 10, 2016 16:35:48 #
MtnMan wrote:
You can convert jpeg files to the RAW format in Photoshop and Elements using "open as". Of course it does not recover the data lost during jpeg creation. But it does let you edit in ACR.
But you can't then Save As raw so you have not really converted it from JPEG to raw. The original highlight and shadow detail that was lost in creating the JPEG cannot be recovered.
You can also open a JPEG using Capture NX2 and then Save As NEF but it does not get back what the raw file threw away when it created the JPEG. It also does not recreate the information that would have existed before the Bayer conversion.
The most you can do when opening a JPEG is to convert it from 8-bit to 16-bit so you can edit without creating banding.
Dec 10, 2016 16:58:57 #
selmslie wrote:
But you can't then Save As raw so you have not rea... (show quote)
Right. And, as I noted, use ACR edit features.
Dec 11, 2016 05:46:24 #
selmslie wrote:
Exposed at -2 EV from the camera's base matrix reading. I recovered only enough highlight information to get the blue back in the sky. The rest of the work was done recovering the shadows using Capture One Pro.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
I did not want to recover so much that the image would look unreal.
Very nice image!!!
Great post processing !!
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