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Dec 9, 2016 06:11:00   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Jerrin1 wrote:
Consider this option: an EM1 mark II and the Olympus 12 - 100mm f4 PRO. The 12 - 100mm f4 covers a fair bit of what you have listed, though not the bottom or top ends. But, how often would you use 7mm or 200mm? I have been fortunate enough to have a play with an EM1 mark II and a 12 - 100mm f4 PRO and have had both on pre order since day 1. The close focus distance at 12mm is very, very good and the close focus at 100mm is useful. I have a 60mm f2.8 macro and I am part ex-ing it, along with my 12 - 40mm f2.8 PRO and 40 - 150mm f2.8 PRO in favour of the 12 - 100mm f4. In fairness, I do have the Oly 300mm f4 PRO + 1.4 TC, so I can shoot at longer distances. The mark II apparently works very well with the Oly 43 lenses via the adapter, should you stick with those older lenses.
Consider this option: an EM1 mark II and the Olymp... (show quote)


I wouldn't be able to do both.

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Dec 9, 2016 06:14:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Ok, so I just had the discussion with wife, and I have the go ahead for the em1ii, if I want (her present to me).

Or...we also discussed me keeping the em1 and get the equivalent $$$ in glass (but I'd have to quit sending her em1ii emails). I do miss my old O7-14 f4, 50f2 and 50-200swd w/ec-14...and I've always been intrigued with the 150f2.

I do honestly feel that my current em1 is still quite the capable camera, but there's always the mystique of a new camera/body. I like to print big (larger than 30") and while can (and do) tile multiple images to achieve the resolution I desire, it sure would be nice with the highrez mode to not have to do that.

The only caveat is that $350 of has to be used on amazon (due to gift cards). The rest can be used wherever, and I'm not opposed to going the used route to stretch the money. She also said I need to take more time to go shoot...did I mention she's a keeper?

New em1ii and a couple of batteries and I'd also need a camera plate for my tripod
Or a combination of the following glass options
7-14mm f2.8
40-150 pro w/emc-14
60mm macro
50-200swd
150mm f2 with ec20

What would you do (keeping in consideration my gear list in my signature)?
Ok, so I just had the discussion with wife, and I ... (show quote)


When in doubt, I buy.

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Dec 9, 2016 07:00:44   #
DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Ok, so I just had the discussion with wife, and I have the go ahead for the em1ii, if I want (her present to me).

Or...we also discussed me keeping the em1 and get the equivalent $$$ in glass (but I'd have to quit sending her em1ii emails). I do miss my old O7-14 f4, 50f2 and 50-200swd w/ec-14...and I've always been intrigued with the 150f2.

I do honestly feel that my current em1 is still quite the capable camera, but there's always the mystique of a new camera/body. I like to print big (larger than 30") and while can (and do) tile multiple images to achieve the resolution I desire, it sure would be nice with the highrez mode to not have to do that.

The only caveat is that $350 of has to be used on amazon (due to gift cards). The rest can be used wherever, and I'm not opposed to going the used route to stretch the money. She also said I need to take more time to go shoot...did I mention she's a keeper?

New em1ii and a couple of batteries and I'd also need a camera plate for my tripod
Or a combination of the following glass options
7-14mm f2.8
40-150 pro w/emc-14
60mm macro
50-200swd
150mm f2 with ec20

What would you do (keeping in consideration my gear list in my signature)?
Ok, so I just had the discussion with wife, and I ... (show quote)



Don't you love this hobby! Always new toys to consider.

Camera and lenses are the tools for your hobby. If you can afford them then consider which tools you need to get the photos you want. When I take photos, I'm interested in dynamic range, low light capability and speed capability. This means I've added a canon 6D and some fast glass to get some of those wants. I'm now wanting something lightweight to carry for convenience and have been looking at mirror-less to fill that gap. Probably will weight until the em1 mkll gets less expensive. So my point is buy what you want to fill your needs and if you have what you need then buy the new toy (em1 mkll)! You probably will sell the em1 mkl so buy your glass with that?

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Dec 9, 2016 08:07:46   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Ok, so I just had the discussion with wife, and I have the go ahead for the em1ii, if I want (her present to me).

Or...we also discussed me keeping the em1 and get the equivalent $$$ in glass (but I'd have to quit sending her em1ii emails). I do miss my old O7-14 f4, 50f2 and 50-200swd w/ec-14...and I've always been intrigued with the 150f2.

I do honestly feel that my current em1 is still quite the capable camera, but there's always the mystique of a new camera/body. I like to print big (larger than 30") and while can (and do) tile multiple images to achieve the resolution I desire, it sure would be nice with the highrez mode to not have to do that.

The only caveat is that $350 of has to be used on amazon (due to gift cards). The rest can be used wherever, and I'm not opposed to going the used route to stretch the money. She also said I need to take more time to go shoot...did I mention she's a keeper?

New em1ii and a couple of batteries and I'd also need a camera plate for my tripod
Or a combination of the following glass options
7-14mm f2.8
40-150 pro w/emc-14
60mm macro
50-200swd
150mm f2 with ec20

What would you do (keeping in consideration my gear list in my signature)?
Ok, so I just had the discussion with wife, and I ... (show quote)


You know you want it. You have been waiting and wondering about it for it for months :) If you get glass instead you will wonder what you were missing by NOT getting it! And wondering how much better your new lens would have been in combination the new camera. Just bite the bullet and go for it. Add new glass next year.

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Dec 9, 2016 08:32:31   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
That doesn't play into the factor for me.

Keep using my em1 and get glass or buy a new em1ii. That's the question I'm posing.


I'm gonna ask you the same (or similar) question that has been asked here on the Hog many times:
What can you do and what would you use with the MkII that you couldn't do with the E-M1?

When I got the E-M1, it was after careful comparison with the E-5 (my then current camera).
The E-M1 won (and I've never regretted getting it, I love that camera).
I've been comparing again. And while there are some very interesting features, I know that some of them I will never use beyond "trying out" to see what happens. On top of that, I haven't even learned to use all the features of the E-M1. All in all, I cannot justify spending $2500 for a new camera.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

BTW, when my husband spotted the ad for the MkII in the local newspaper, he was prepared to go out and buy it for me, as a Christmas present. I opted for a diamond necklace instead, to match the earrings he gave me last year. :-)

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Dec 9, 2016 08:37:50   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Morning Star wrote:
I'm gonna ask you the same (or similar) question that has been asked here on the Hog many times:
What can you do and what would you use with the MkII that you couldn't do with the E-M1?

When I got the E-M1, it was after careful comparison with the E-5 (my then current camera).
The E-M1 won (and I've never regretted getting it, I love that camera).
I've been comparing again. And while there are some very interesting features, I know that some of them I will never use beyond "trying out" to see what happens. On top of that, I haven't even learned to use all the features of the E-M1. All in all, I cannot justify spending $2500 for a new camera.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

BTW, when my husband spotted the ad for the MkII in the local newspaper, he was prepared to go out and buy it for me, as a Christmas present. I opted for a diamond necklace instead, to match the earrings he gave me last year. :-)
I'm gonna ask you the same (or similar) question t... (show quote)


Much better C-AF and Hi-Rez Mode are the things that are most appealing to me...not to mention an even better IBIS. I totally avoid the C-AF setting on my current em-1 as I find it not reliable.

As for glass, I really would love to have the 7-14...but I think that I'd like to wait until the new rectilinear 7.5 f2 is released early next year by Loawa (Venus Optics). But then again, the 40-150 with emc-14 has been calling my name for quite some time...oh, I'm still torn.

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Dec 9, 2016 09:52:18   #
JohnMD Loc: Colorado
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
4K recording doesn't hurt either, but I'm not really a video guy...I'd only use it for short clips.


Most people have the wrong idea about 4K video . . .

While 4K is the next generation of HD video, it also has another use that most don't know about.

4K video can also give you a real frame-grab still photo that looks like a real picture . . . not some blurry, pixelized photo with strange colors that we are used to when trying to grab a still photo out of a standard or 1080P video.

Can be a game changer for kids sports photos!

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Dec 9, 2016 09:57:42   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
Sounds like what we call a "First World problem."

What ever you decide, enjoy, and start saving up for the stuff you didn't get this round.

Trying to decide on the mii myself, but it won't be son at any rate. Also like that new 12-100. Oh, well, I have plenty of Nikon and Olympus toys to play with....

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Dec 9, 2016 10:30:45   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
Have you had the "green splotch" problem with the EM-1 viewfinder like so many other have? I have an EM-1 with it's second viewfinder failing with green splotches and the factory service folks claim "they've not had any problems with them" even though the web is full of complaints about the problem. At first I was enchanted with the speed and quiet operations of the EM-1 but the viewfinder failures have discouraged my interest in going with any M4/3 camera. Plus, for wildlife/bird photography there aren't any M4/3 cameras out there to equal Canon or Nikon DSLRs so I've got a low shutter count EM-1 if any one wants one cheap. Good luck.

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Dec 9, 2016 10:34:41   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
CaptainBobBrown wrote:
Have you had the "green splotch" problem with the EM-1 viewfinder like so many other have? I have an EM-1 with it's second viewfinder failing with green splotches and the factory service folks claim "they've not had any problems with them" even though the web is full of complaints about the problem. At first I was enchanted with the speed and quiet operations of the EM-1 but the viewfinder failures have discouraged my interest in going with any M4/3 camera. Plus, for wildlife/bird photography there aren't any M4/3 cameras out there to equal Canon or Nikon DSLRs so I've got a low shutter count EM-1 if any one wants one cheap. Good luck.
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Never had a single issue with my em1...it's a champ other than the less than useful C-AF, and some cosmetic blemishes (paint chip on mode dial). That said I don't adjust the diopter, which is known to be part of the problem.

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Dec 9, 2016 11:01:44   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Your most-mentioned feature that intrigues you is the hi-rez feature. With that in mind, what about the em-5 mk2? It has the hi-rez mode as well as IBIS. And it'a a lot less expensive than the new em-1 mk2. With the $$$ saved, you could pick up new glass.

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Dec 9, 2016 11:04:58   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Your most-mentioned feature that intrigues you is the hi-rez feature. With that in mind, what about the em-5 mk2? It has the hi-rez mode as well as IBIS. And it'a a lot less expensive than the new em-1 mk2. With the $$$ saved, you could pick up new glass.


AF isn't as good on the em5ii as it is on my current em-1. That and it closes the door on ever wanting to use the old 4/3 glass. One day I'll own that 150 f2 (or another 50-200), and I'd like a current body to use it on.

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Dec 9, 2016 11:05:32   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Going with the body...and I'll continue to just rock with the glass I have...until the Loawa 7.5 f2 is released.

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Dec 9, 2016 11:15:37   #
JohnMD Loc: Colorado
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
AF isn't as good on the em5ii as it is on my current em-1. That and it closes the door on ever wanting to use the old 4/3 glass. One day I'll own that 150 f2 (or another 50-200), and I'd like a current body to use it on.


I have the Olympus MMF-3 adapter and use my Olympus 4/3rds E-mount lenses on my E-M10m1 and Panasonic GM1 and they work wonderful on both cameras.

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Dec 9, 2016 11:16:40   #
efleck Loc: Vancouver, WA State
 
Great exchange on the new EM1 Mark II. I have gone through the same sort of analysis over the past several months. Just this week I decided to ask my wife to give me as my Christmas present a new EM1 Mark II to replace my EM1. I've studied the Mark II manual (available online in PDF format) and like the great advances in capability of the Mark II while basically retaining the button and menu structure of the original. The reviews by DP and Imaging Resources are quite laudatory and impressive. The continuous AF is very important to me and I think Olympus has made great strides in improving this capability. The high res function also appeals to me.

I too face the issue about lenses but this time I wonder if I should replace my 12-40 Pro and 40-150 Pro with the 12-100 Pro. The image stabilization ability of the 12-100 Pro (both IBIS and lens) is very appealing but I recognize I would be giving up fast lenses (2.8 versus 4.0.) I have the 7-14 Pro and do not leave town without it. I used the 7-14 extensively on our recent road trip in Northern Italy where the super-wide angle ability was essential. I also have the 300mm Pro for animals (BIF) with the 1.4 tele-extender. The 12-100 Pro should enable me to cover most of the region of my 12-40 and 40-150. If I were to sell my 12-40 and 40-150 I would be losing the use of these faster lenses but greatly decreasing the load I have to pack and carry.

A lot to think about. However, my parting comment to the OP is to highly recommend the 7-14 Pro.

Earl

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