Mirrorless cameras
Nov 20, 2016 21:16:34 #
Nov 20, 2016 21:49:47 #
Nov 20, 2016 22:08:46 #
Bravo wrote:
People focus way too much on size and weight, because they then become tied up in discussions about systems {sometimes lens geometry requirements result in camera + lens being essentially the same size for comparable MILC and DSLR systems}. I am quite interested in getting an MILC, but that is because an EVF can often give a much more useful view than an OVF can. In particular, in darkish areas, the MILC can increase the gain, increase the brightness, making it easier to the user to accurately frame the picture, and providing a much more accurate view of what the final image would be like {I do the same thing with the LCD in LiveView on my DSLR, but holding the camera so I can do that is much more awkward than is holding an EVF up to my eye}Other than size and weight, what is the advantage of mirrorless cameras?
Nov 20, 2016 22:12:07 #
Bravo wrote:
Other than size and weight, what is the advantage of mirrorless cameras?
It really depends on who is using it and what for. In my case, I could never ever go back to an OVF. With mirrorless you see what the picture looks like. Image quality is equal. With mirrorless you get so many extra options as well. Focus bracketing, focus stacking, live composite, IBIS, hi res, etc...
Too many to list. But you may not need any of those features. Best to visit a store and try them out yourself. With FF/apsc mirrorless the lenses will be as large as the DSLR lenses. Buttons may also be too small for some with large hands. It is very personal. Everything that is offered will take as good a picture as the chimp behind the viewfinder. We are lucky.
Nov 21, 2016 05:30:48 #
Bravo wrote:
Other than size and weight, what is the advantage of mirrorless cameras?
That's pretty much it, may be count in > no mirror slap<.
Nov 21, 2016 07:02:05 #
Bravo wrote:
Other than size and weight, what is the advantage of mirrorless cameras?
Images almost as good as you get with a DSLR.
Time after time, we read about members who got sick and tired of carrying their big, heavy DSLRs and bought a mirrorless and "never looked back."
From Tom -
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/dslr-vs-mirrorless-cameras,news-17736.html
Nov 21, 2016 07:13:43 #
Size and weight are two of the advantages, with a 20mm prime lens fitted I can put my Olympus EM10 into my jacket pocket.
But to me the excellent image quality is the main plus point, it's rather like having a huge SUV when small compact car will do exactly the same job.
But to me the excellent image quality is the main plus point, it's rather like having a huge SUV when small compact car will do exactly the same job.
Nov 21, 2016 07:33:46 #
speters wrote:
That's pretty much it, may be count in > no mirror slap<.
Obviously you have never tried one.
Nov 21, 2016 08:30:57 #
A couple of commonly missed points on mirrorless. In addition to size and weight of course. The mirror assembly causes a percussion when it activates. This of course is one reason why you have a mirror lockup feature on DLSRs. Not an issue with mirrorless. Having the lens closer to the sensor is a huge advantage. One big reason is that adapters can and are made for just about any lens utilizing the extra space. Love my 5DII, but I held off at the time as EVF quality still had a way to go. With the newest A7 cameras, the gap is much closer to optical. I believe the days of the DSLR are numbered.
Nov 21, 2016 08:49:01 #
jackpi
Loc: Southwest Ohio
I value the EVF (what you see is what you get), lack of mirror shock, and in-body stabilization of mirrorless cameras the most. Although mirrorless cameras are usually smaller than DSLRs with the same sensor size, the mirrorless camera lenses are comparable to DSLR lenses (for a specific sensor size) and the total camera+lenses weight difference at a specific sensor size is usually within 10-15%. If you are concerned about weight, you should consider moving to a smaller sensor size FF --> 1.5 crop --> 2.0 crop --> 1" sensor (Canon/Nikon/Sony full frame --> Canon xxD/Nikon DX/Fuji/Sony 6x00 --> Olympus/Panasonic --> Nikon 1/Sony RX100). What you give up with step in smaller sensor size is low light performance and dynamic range--about one stop for each step down in sensor size. What you gain with each step down in sensor size is increased depth of field and increased maximum frames/sec.
Nov 21, 2016 09:11:00 #
johneccles wrote:
Size and weight are two of the advantages, with a 20mm prime lens fitted I can put my Olympus EM10 into my jacket pocket.
But to me the excellent image quality is the main plus point, it's rather like having a huge SUV when small compact car will do exactly the same job.
But to me the excellent image quality is the main plus point, it's rather like having a huge SUV when small compact car will do exactly the same job.
Yes, but it is more than that. It is a Ford Explorer versus a Corvette. Not just size and weight, but handling and elegance. The SLR (Ford) may be better for some specialized (off road) things, but for just driving (shooting) the corvette wins.
Nov 21, 2016 09:11:58 #
Bravo wrote:
Other than size and weight, what is the advantage of mirrorless cameras?
Smaller, cheaper, higher quality wide angle lenses, no mirror slap vibrations, shorter shutter lag time ( no mirror to move out of the way), WYSIWYG electronic VF, no focus calibration needed, cheaper camera body (no prism/mirror box), using VF in almost complete darkness.......there may be MORE ?
Nov 21, 2016 09:38:26 #
Bravo wrote:
Other than size and weight, what is the advantage of mirrorless cameras?
Instead of asking the question that has been asked who knows how many times...go pick up or rent one of the Olympus OMD cameras and see what the differences are for yourself. If you're located near me, then let's go have coffee and I'll bring my gear to go over the differences.
The biggest advantages for me is the EVF and the smaller overall footprint...especially if you look at m4/3. Are you looking to supplement what you already shoot, or are you looking to make the switch?
Nov 21, 2016 10:01:17 #
CatMarley wrote:
Yes, but it is more than that. It is a Ford Explorer versus a Corvette. Not just size and weight, but handling and elegance. The SLR (Ford) may be better for some specialized (off road) things, but for just driving (shooting) the corvette wins.
Ha ha - exactly - Corvette maybe perfect for some - but it wont pull my horse trailer and I can't get a car seat in it -> so totally useless for me... that is also how I feel about mirrorless cameras. Although I have been tempted at time - I know I will regret it.
Nov 21, 2016 10:17:16 #
imagemeister wrote:
Smaller, cheaper, higher quality wide angle lenses, no mirror slap vibrations, shorter shutter lag time ( no mirror to move out of the way), WYSIWYG electronic VF, no focus calibration needed, cheaper camera body (no prism/mirror box), using VF in almost complete darkness.......there may be MORE ?
Generally they are quieter, too.
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