Could I lower my shutter speed ? (Page 2): Why does everyone think that everything in nature is perfect. It is not. There is nothing wrong with post in the picture. I do not like...

jdeanb Loc: Texas / central

Izza1967 wrote:

I took this shot with a canon 1000d and Tamron 70-300 lens in aperture priority mode with iso at 400 and a shutter speed of 1/3000

I would like to lower the iso to remove some of the noise but don't know how quick the shutter would need to be to prevent the wings from blurring.

Thanks in advance for any help

Why does everyone think that everything in nature is perfect. It is not. There is nothing wrong with post in the picture. I do not like pictures that are photo shopped except maybe crop. James

RMM Loc: Suburban New York

Izza1967 wrote:

I hadn't thought of our natural tendancy to look left to right so thankyou for pointing that out, I will definately keep that in mind in future.

As for the crop I was limited by that damn post again ;)
Here is a small version of the original and as you can see I also had to clone out the other swan

I agree that we in the west tend to look left to right, but the natural world isn't so conveniently oriented. It doesn't bother me to see the photo as you shot it. What might be interesting is to crop it into a portrait orientation, losing about a third of the left side and maybe coming in some on the right. You could also crop some off the bottom. That would eliminate the post problem.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

James you are quite right in your thinking. My mentioning the post is a "Rule" in photo classed as Nature _ it would be fine if it were a stump or bush -As the other gentleman, RMM, is posting very good points that are broadly viewed as correct & helpful in composing and in PP.

jdeanb wrote:

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normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri

RMM wrote:

You know what? The post didn't need to be cloned out. It added dimension to the photo. A lot of these long lens shots tend to look like somebody smacked it flat with a frying pan.

I agree i liked the post in the image myself.

dtcracer

I'm not seeing any noise. These are beautiful photos, though!

nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA

Shouldn't you be shooting shutter priority instead of aperture priority? Whatever it was, they're great photos!

Kenneth Pierce Loc: Campbellsville, Kentucky

Noise is ok.. Try Flipping the photo horizontally.

glojo Loc: South Devon, England

jdeanb wrote:

Why does everyone think that everything in nature is perfect. It is not. There is nothing wrong with post in the picture. I do not like pictures that are photo shopped except maybe crop. James

I agree, plus I also the like the original shot although the half a swan at the top of it might have to go :)

Farview Loc: PA

I like the post included. I don't think it distracts from the subject, but adds to the pic. Love it the way it is.

CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon

Izza1967 wrote:

I took this shot with a canon 1000d and Tamron 70-300 lens in aperture priority mode with iso at 400 and a shutter speed of 1/3000

I would like to lower the iso to remove some of the noise but don't know how quick the shutter would need to be to prevent the wings from blurring.

Thanks in advance for any help

I'm surprised that you are getting noise at 400 ISO. wonder if something else is going on. You certainly could lower the ISO and still freeze the action with the lighting you have. I would think 1/2000 would still work depending on how the bird was moving with respect to the camera. You did not mention your F stop setting in the photo. Its a great photo! Good job. :thumbup:

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

Izza1967 wrote:

I took this shot with a canon 1000d and Tamron 70-300 lens in aperture priority mode with iso at 400 and a shutter speed of 1/3000

I would like to lower the iso to remove some of the noise but don't know how quick the shutter would need to be to prevent the wings from blurring.

Thanks in advance for any help

If you want to blur or avoid blurring the shutter speed should be under your control. The following is a guide for some typical situations:

1/100 posed portrait, immobile scene, or architecture. It is best to use a tripod.

1/160 is fast enough to take unposed photos without blurring any random hand gestures.

1/320 is the lower need that can work for sports, like basketball.

1/500 eliminates blur from all human movement and nearly all ball movement. It will also freeze spinning aircraft propellors.

When depth of field is also an issue, shooting in full manual is important. For example, if when shooting a party you set only to shutter priority of 1/160 the aperture selected by the camera may focus the closest person, but keep farther ones out of focus. If you set the aperture to F8 all will be in focus. To collect enough light you will use a good lens with a large aperture capability, as well as bumping up the ISO and the exposure compensation.

Izza1967 Loc: Bristol, England

Got away from my original question of noise but from your comments it seems it's just me being picky so that's cleared that up :D

The other opinions about the composure, cloning out of objects and typical shutter speeds are very welcome too, thankyou.

I can see me spending a lot of time here.

RMM Loc: Suburban New York

The original question related to noise. There isn't a lot of noise, nor should there be, at ISO 400. To the extent there is noise in a blow-up of the photo, the original image was already cropped substantially. Blowing it up after throwing away a bunch of pixels is going to have some effect.

Nikonfan70 Loc: Long Island

I would shoot that at 1/1000 @ iso 200 without a tripod so I can track the bird. If I needed to shoot a priority mode it would be shutter . However, The photos are good as is.

Phyllis Loc: NE PA

Izza1967 wrote:

I took this shot with a canon 1000d and Tamron 70-300 lens in aperture priority mode with iso at 400 and a shutter speed of 1/3000

I would like to lower the iso to remove some of the noise but don't know how quick the shutter would need to be to prevent the wings from blurring.

Thanks in advance for any help

What's wrong with this photo again? I think it's gorgeous.

I really like the edit without the post.