whitewolfowner

For all those that think that o'bozocare and the liberal agenda are so great, check out this letter a guy named Jay Wells got from Blue Cross and Blue Shield. Just keep voting the liberal agenda and see how much worse it will get. My own state is raising the premiums 92% right after the elections which means if I was foolish enough to buy it, after my premiums and deductible were met, for an almost useless policy (the bare bones one that hardly covers anything), I would be left with a whopping $133 a month to live on. And don't suggest that I'd get it for free; I am too poor to qualify for medical care in my state and yes you heard right, I am too poor to qualify for free o'bozocare.

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chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

I believe that the heart of the ACA is a very GOOD thing. Healthcare for ALL.

The implementation has not been stellar, but the insurance companies and the states and the PEOPLE not signing up - haven't helped.

Healthcare costs continue to rise.......a good reason for people to have healthcare.

If everyone signed up, I think many of the insurance sompanies would have stayed in, and premiums would not have risen....at least not as much.

All of these "well" people are gaming the system, not paying till they need it...and then they'll cry and scream cause they have to pay so much to get "well" again.

As with EVERYTHING .... the answer is NOT as simple as the ACA is "bad".

There are a lot of ways to "fix" this, but too many people are willing to let "others' go without healthcare and suffer because of it.

It's a very sad commentary on our citizenry.

IMHO.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

So you place the blame for this total fiasco on US? The CITIZENS? Your statement ranks almost as high on the "stupid" list as Pelosi's memorable "We have to pass this to see what's in it."

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

NO.....I didn't say, or even imply that.

Please reread what I wrote.

What I said was (or intended to say)......there are plenty of reasons why the ACA has not been as successful as hoped.

No single person/factor is responsible for the entire thing.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

You are correct about the "heart" of it but they threw out the baby with the bathwater. Issues could have been addressed without destroying the entire industry. One size does not fit all. Here's just one example: Why on earth am I forced to have pre-natal care in my policy? Why should any adult male? How absurd is that?

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

For the same reason that I, a person who does NOT have children, pay for schools.

As we all know, or should know, insurance is funded by the people who don't use the coverage to pay for the people who do.
This is true of life insurance as well as health insurance.
It attempts to even out costs over a larger population.
Is it "fair"? maybe not.

There is this thing called the collective good.

When did we become a society that only cared about ourselves and stopped caring about the collective good of our country, as a whole?

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

"Collective good"? Is that in the Constitution? Would you feel that way if your school taxes became a significant portion of your outlay? If you had to choose between paying for schools and putting food on your table would you still feel that way?

whitewolfowner

You are disillusioned from the start. More people that had health insurance before o'bozocare are without it now because now they cannot afford it; nothing to say how many have lost full time employment or employment all together. Also, millions of Americans are without health insurance that are desperately poor, while many making 60,000 and more a year have obozozcare for free. The system is a disaster and so unfair and unbalanced, a kindergarten kid couldn't screw things up more. The only way to fix it is to trash it and start over from scratch. The only people who are willing to let "others" go without healthcare are the cronies in Washington, DC.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

I'm not going to argue with you that the ACA is a fantastic program and doesn't have faults.

I will , however, argue that the intention is still valid.

Your name calling of the ACA doesn't help your arguments.

It might with your "friends" but not with anyone else.

As an intelligent person, you should be able to make your arguments without denigration or name calling.

Then maybe the cronies, that you support, should get to work.

If it's delusional to want everyone in this country to have affordable healthcare.....then I wear that PROUDLY.

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Collective Good. How Communist. Now we know where you are coming from.

whitewolfowner

Your problem is that you think it's something that it is not. If you'd stop letting the main stream media control your every thoughts, you'd know this and you'd know what a fraud the whole healthcare bill has been. From "you can keep your health care plan" to "you can keep your Doctor" and every other lie in between, it has been a scam from day one. There is even filming of watching the authors of the bill laughing at how stupid America is to still believe all the lies they threw out there. Wake up and smell the coffee. Maybe when your payments for plan sky rocket after the elections, it may start sinking in. Seems the best way to wake up even the most ignorant is to hit them in the pocket book.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

So it IS true.

You don't care about ANYONE except you and yours.

You don't even care about your neighbor? The guy/gal who works at the grocery store?

I feel sorry for you.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

You keep harping on the current implementation of the ACA.

If you would READ what I wrote, you'd understand that my feelings about the ACA have NOTHING to do with the media, main stream or not.

My feelings have to do with wanting affordable healthcare for everyone.

I've had these feelings long before Obama became President.

They started when I was 11 years old and my friends father died because he couldn't afford to go to the hospital.
I didn't fully grasp all of the complexities until I was older, but it started then

Why do you think that affordable healthcare for everyone is such a bad thing?

Please do not ask me questions about the details of my experience.
You don't really care about them......do you?

whitewolfowner

You see, you hit the nail on the head. We do worry about our neighbors and family members in need. So we want something that not only works for them but also doesn't bankrupt the hard working people in America who have been lucky enough to build themselves a life and don't want it stolen from them. You fail to see that o'bozocare does not work and is destroying health care for everyone. It may not have hit you yet, but it will if the hag gets in. Then people like you will be walking around with your head waving into the air crying to everyone: "how could this have ever happened?" Even then, you will still be blinded and not have a clue. Keep in mind many have tried to wake you up and you have refused to open your mind and your eyes.

whitewolfowner

I care about everyone in America. I would like to see everyone to be able to afford health care and get the medical care they need when they need it. Let me run a true life situation by you and explain to me how obozocare is taking care of everyone. I know someone who is living on $1216 a month. They are being denied obozocare but they have been offered a market plan which hardly covers a thing for $347 month with a $5000 deductible before it pays a penny. With the premium and the deductible divided into 12 increments, this person will have to fork out $664 a month for a practically useless health care plan, leaving them $552 a month to live on. Starting next year in their state, their premiums will be raised 92% and many of the few coverages will be cut. Now this person is left with $133 a month to life on if they bought obozocare. Now explain to me how this is affordable health care. Needless to say, this person cannot afford healthcare at these prices and sits in their home a medical prisoner in so much pain they cannot get up and down the stairs to n and out of their home or even in the tub to clean themselves. This has been going on for over two years and no one anywhere in the state or federal government will lift a finger to help. Now explain to me how obozocare is working.