Trump danger to world, says UN official
Oct 12, 2016 11:00:08 #
Oct 12, 2016 11:02:00 #
Think about it. The only reason The U.N. is worried is that they won't get their way with the U.S. if Trump is elected. No more of an outside entity dictating to The U.S. what we should do.
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dirtpusher wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37628345
Oct 12, 2016 11:03:39 #
rmalarz wrote:
No more of an outside entity dictating to The U.S. what we should do.
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You believe this is current reality...the UN tells us what to do?
Oct 12, 2016 11:07:47 #
rmalarz wrote:
Think about it. The only reason The U.N. is worried is that they won't get their way with the U.S. if Trump is elected. No more of an outside entity dictating to The U.S. what we should do.
--Bob
--Bob
When this start.
Oct 12, 2016 11:18:22 #
rmalarz wrote:
Think about it. The only reason The U.N. is worried is that they won't get their way with the U.S. if Trump is elected. No more of an outside entity dictating to The U.S. what we should do.
--Bob
--Bob
Poster might try understanding that we of some 310 million people are obliged to cooperate in a wold of a few billion people. Those who trumpet 'make America great again' must tell us which decade or two are hankering to get back to and what nade us great. If you are speaking of post WW2, then understand that we encouraged world cooperation and that the UN concept was born here.
Oct 12, 2016 11:57:20 #
John_F wrote:
Poster might try understanding that we of some 310 million people are obliged to cooperate in a wold of a few billion people. Those who trumpet 'make America great again' must tell us which decade or two are hankering to get back to and what nade us great. If you are speaking of post WW2, then understand that we encouraged world cooperation and that the UN concept was born here.
The United Nations is a feckless organization that just controls a few square blocks in downtown Manhattan and in Geneva. There is no UN World Government telling us what to do.
Oct 12, 2016 11:59:09 #
rmalarz wrote:
Think about it. The only reason The U.N. is worried is that they won't get their way with the U.S. if Trump is elected. No more of an outside entity dictating to The U.S. what we should do.
--Bob
--Bob
Oct 12, 2016 12:01:44 #
Not necessarily "tells" us, but in ways hampers us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_United_Nations
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mwalsh wrote:
You believe this is current reality...the UN tells us what to do?
Oct 12, 2016 13:53:02 #
As usual for the Attic dwellers we get nonsense responses. The whole idea is international cooperation to solve problems. The idea was invented here as a practical matter. Trump would have us change our leadership to a dictatorship that the rest of the world would reject out of hand. What do we make here than is not made anywhere else.
Oct 12, 2016 14:01:16 #
John_F wrote:
As usual for the Attic dwellers we get nonsense responses. The whole idea is international cooperation to solve problems. The idea was invented here as a practical matter. Trump would have us change our leadership to a dictatorship that the rest of the world would reject out of hand. What do we make here than is not made anywhere else.
Int'l co-op is not the problem.
But if something affects our sovereignty and is not in our
best interests then what's the point. That's what some dislike.
Oct 12, 2016 15:23:22 #
I agree with the altruistic ideals behind the founding of the U.N. However, that idea has seemed to devolve into what we have today.
Additionally, anyone who would make a statement like this, "Trump would have us change our leadership to a dictatorship...", does not understand the basic foundation of our system of government. The president has little power. Sure that person may be misled by Obama's pen and cell phone statement, but the president can't do anything that isn't within the framework of the constitution. Any president who does, will find an impeachment hearing waiting for them.
What We the People really need to do is hold senator's and representative's feet to the fire and let them know that we are displeased with the way they are conducting themselves. We did that, in a way, by voting for Trump during the primary. Sort of out of nowhere, he gets the nomination. That should have sent a message to the leadership as to the opinion a lot of folks had regarding the current "leadership" of the party situation.
Henry Louis Mencken put it this way, "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard".
--Bob
Additionally, anyone who would make a statement like this, "Trump would have us change our leadership to a dictatorship...", does not understand the basic foundation of our system of government. The president has little power. Sure that person may be misled by Obama's pen and cell phone statement, but the president can't do anything that isn't within the framework of the constitution. Any president who does, will find an impeachment hearing waiting for them.
What We the People really need to do is hold senator's and representative's feet to the fire and let them know that we are displeased with the way they are conducting themselves. We did that, in a way, by voting for Trump during the primary. Sort of out of nowhere, he gets the nomination. That should have sent a message to the leadership as to the opinion a lot of folks had regarding the current "leadership" of the party situation.
Henry Louis Mencken put it this way, "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard".
--Bob
John_F wrote:
As usual for the Attic dwellers we get nonsense responses. The whole idea is international cooperation to solve problems. The idea was invented here as a practical matter. Trump would have us change our leadership to a dictatorship that the rest of the world would reject out of hand. What do we make here than is not made anywhere else.
Oct 12, 2016 15:24:07 #
--Bob
soba1 wrote:
Int'l co-op is not the problem.
But if something affects our sovereignty and is not in our
best interests then what's the point. That's what some dislike.
But if something affects our sovereignty and is not in our
best interests then what's the point. That's what some dislike.
Oct 12, 2016 21:13:33 #
rmalarz wrote:
I agree with the altruistic ideals behind the foun... (show quote)
The context of the "leadership" to "dictatorship" was international not national. Yes, a President is answerable to Congress, the Supreme Court, the people with powers defined by the Constitution. Is not one of those powers the conduct of foreign affairs - and does the Constitution place any definitive parameters on that conduct. So the Executive negotiates treaties and yes the Congress must ratify, but for an already Treaty (UN is one) what limits the conduct of the Executive. A practical President would seek consensus on an issue, but Trump would dictate - "hey world this is the way is is going to be". In how many ways could the World make it tough for US. We would learn very quickly how dependent we are on others.
Oct 13, 2016 15:34:33 #
rmalarz wrote:
Think about it. The only reason The U.N. is worried is that they won't get their way with the U.S. if Trump is elected. No more of an outside entity dictating to The U.S. what we should do.
--Bob
--Bob
Sort of like Putin and Russia trying to rig the election for Trump, Think about it. Why would they want Trump to win so bad?
Oct 13, 2016 15:38:46 #
Reddog wrote:
Sort of like Putin and Russia trying to rig the election for Trump, Think about it. Why would they want Trump to win so bad?
Why would Trump do it.?
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