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May 20, 2012 14:52:17   #
Finch585 Loc: Northern California
 
A friend is offering me 50% of net profits for allowing them to use an image I made on a t-shirt they want to sell to area tourists and maybe even on-line.

That sounds very fair to me, but I'm wondering if anyone else here has experience and an opinion on this?

Thanks,
Jeffrey

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May 20, 2012 15:04:07   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
I hope I'm too late and you've already accepted his offer!
Warning: Do not go into any other sort of business with this individual. He has offered you WAY too much, and may do it again with someone else!

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May 20, 2012 15:04:46   #
Carioca
 
Sounds fair to me - as long as you remember that profits will fluctuate with expenses.

Might be better to set a dollar amount per sale. Easier to account for, too.

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May 20, 2012 15:14:33   #
Finch585 Loc: Northern California
 
Danilo wrote:
I hope I'm too late and you've already accepted his offer!
Warning: Do not go into any other sort of business with this individual. He has offered you WAY too much, and may do it again with someone else!


I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Are you joking?Which way?

Thx

J.

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May 20, 2012 15:16:56   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
Yes, it's a VERY good deal. Depending, of course, on his definition of 'net' and his accounting standards.

Cheers,

R.

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May 20, 2012 15:25:46   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
New2blog wrote:
Danilo wrote:
I hope I'm too late and you've already accepted his offer!
Warning: Do not go into any other sort of business with this individual. He has offered you WAY too much, and may do it again with someone else!


I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Are you joking?Which way?

Thx

J.


I'm sorry to be so mystical. What I meant is: If I were his partner I would not have let him agree to pay so much for an image. If I were his partner I would question his business acumen. But in this matter, I would accept his offer, and make no plans for future ventures with him.

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May 20, 2012 16:18:58   #
Finch585 Loc: Northern California
 
I understand, and thanks.

Danilo wrote:
New2blog wrote:
Danilo wrote:
I hope I'm too late and you've already accepted his offer!
Warning: Do not go into any other sort of business with this individual. He has offered you WAY too much, and may do it again with someone else!


I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Are you joking?Which way?

Thx

J.


I'm sorry to be so mystical. What I meant is: If I were his partner I would not have let him agree to pay so much for an image. If I were his partner I would question his business acumen. But in this matter, I would accept his offer, and make no plans for future ventures with him.
quote=New2blog quote=Danilo I hope I'm too late ... (show quote)

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May 20, 2012 16:19:19   #
Finch585 Loc: Northern California
 
Thanks, Mr. Hicks.

Roger Hicks wrote:
Yes, it's a VERY good deal. Depending, of course, on his definition of 'net' and his accounting standards.

Cheers,

R.

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May 20, 2012 16:25:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Carioca wrote:
Sounds fair to me - as long as you remember that profits will fluctuate with expenses.

Might be better to set a dollar amount per sale. Easier to account for, too.

What is the definition of "profit"? There was a joke going around Hollywood a few years ago about the profit made by a particular movie. There was even joking at the Academy Awards about it. I think an actor was promised a share of the profits. Despite taking in over $200,000,000, the producers said it did not turn a profit - when you figure in this, that, and the other thing. Anything that would normally be considered profit was given a different term.

When he computes his material costs, travel expenses, office expenses, salaries, insurance, pro-rated depreciation, etc., you might wind up owing him money.

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May 20, 2012 16:51:14   #
Finch585 Loc: Northern California
 
Good food for thought, Jerry, thank you for that perspective. This is a dear friend and a cottage industry, but I'll iron that out. Perhaps a flat fee per item sold is a better idea after all, as also suggested.

J.

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May 20, 2012 17:21:57   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
Me thinks me smell sumtin fishie...... sniff, sniff..

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May 20, 2012 17:26:14   #
Finch585 Loc: Northern California
 
donrent wrote:
Me thinks me smell sumtin fishie...... sniff, sniff..


Ok, so, what's usual, then?

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May 20, 2012 18:30:41   #
Wanda Krack Loc: Tennessee, USA
 
I'm with everyone else here. You might consider finding out how many shirts he needs to sell in order to start making a profit. If he means 50% of each shirt sold, that's an incredible deal. And, if they become popular, your name or logo should show up on the image!! Good luck with this, and I hope they sell a bundle! Let us know how this turns out.

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May 20, 2012 22:37:44   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
never go in to business with or buy (car, camera, whatever) from a friend unless you don't mind losing the freindship. on the bad idea scale it ranks right under playing a game of pool for money against somebody named minnesotta.

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May 20, 2012 22:51:49   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
sinatraman wrote:
never go in to business with or buy (car, camera, whatever) a friend unless you don't mind losing the freindship. on the bad idea scale it ranks right under playing a game of pool for money against somebody named minnesotta.


As a sidenote, sinatrman: The real Minnesota Fats (Rudolph Wonderone) was not a terribly good pool player, he garnered his fame by taking the name from Jackie Gleason's character in "The Hustler", but there were, in fact, many, many poolplayers better than he.

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