Joining Chuck on the HDR trail
Oct 3, 2016 21:41:41 #
After Chucks excellent Floral HDR post an attempt from ol' Billy to visually enhance an image with HDR techniques. The question to be asked here is would you know it was a multi image shot put through HDR software if you had not been informed?
For your consideration
For your consideration
Oct 3, 2016 22:47:27 #
Frank2013
Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
I would not, but have no HDR experience. Just one fine photo Mr. Spad. Well composed, full of impact, and technically excellent.
Oct 3, 2016 23:01:30 #
No, I would not know without heavy scrutinizing. You did this very well!!!! I don't like the "over cooked" ones.
Oct 4, 2016 02:08:26 #
No. I am surprised that there is no evidence of multi image composition. One would expect muddy or indistinct reflections in the water. BTW, nice shot of a very interesting vessel.
Oct 4, 2016 04:07:59 #
Frank2013 wrote:
I would not, but have no HDR experience. Just one fine photo Mr. Spad. Well composed, full of impact, and technically excellent.
Very glad you appreciate this Frank. A bucket load of work went into this. Its flipped for a start so all the letters had to be copied from the original and flipped and adjusted to fit. The HDR is applied selectively so it only enhances what it needs too. Tonal Contrast from Nik collection used on the water reflections and blended with HDR image. Hull is from original image I believe with no filters added. Blue of sky is original image as HDR software tends to add noise to plain blue skies. Clouds got full HDR treatment.
Your a stickler for detail so you should be pretty good at HDR.
Oct 4, 2016 04:15:04 #
luvmypets wrote:
No, I would not know without heavy scrutinizing. You did this very well!!!! I don't like the "over cooked" ones.
If you read my reply to Frank you will get some idea of what I think goes into good HDR. Use it just where you have to reveal extra detail and use it in conjunction with other techniques and filters.
The overcooked ones actually can look good if you choose the right subject and know what your doing. HDR software does tend to make people go slider bonkers! Never accept the preset as the finished article and in most cases blend your HDR image selectively with the originals.
Thank you for the compliment and glad you like it.
Oct 4, 2016 05:44:44 #
No, I wouldn't know, and I'm sure you don't want me to Billy. The only comparison with Chucks flower is that it prompted you to HDR this image - which is not a bad thing at all, but you have processed this with the subject in mind and it is not a dead flower.
Like Chuck's, it is superbly processed for the subject. The foreground has depth and the colours are perfect. Very nicely done and an interesting shot to boot!
Like Chuck's, it is superbly processed for the subject. The foreground has depth and the colours are perfect. Very nicely done and an interesting shot to boot!
Oct 4, 2016 06:58:19 #
Billyspad wrote:
After Chucks excellent Floral HDR post an attempt from ol' Billy to visually enhance an image with HDR techniques. The question to be asked here is would you know it was a multi image shot put through HDR software if you had not been informed?
For your consideration
For your consideration
Hey Billy,
I like it and can't 'really' tell it is mulitple images, excpet I have a question about one area. I don't know if it is real, processed, or whatever it may or may not be. I just hope I can explain to you what I am looking at, so here goes.
It is the area of water that is the bottom camera right to the immediate camera right of the tire pier running up toward about the middle of the image at a slight diagonal and goes underneath the red and very slightly underneath the edge of the white horizontal boom or mast that protrudes horizontally across the vessel. It actually starts right from the shadow of the vessel on the water. On my 13" screen, it is about 2" in width in or on the water, and is showing reflection from the vessel and the water looks like it has a different texture or wave pattern than the rest of the water.
Hopefully, I described what I am talking about. It may be natural and real - I honestly don't know and I am trying to figure it out . . . perhaps the water is just shielded from the wind and displays a differing wave/water pattern? Thanks, Billy.
Best Regards,
Tom
Oct 4, 2016 07:27:06 #
Nice Job Billy. 
I looked your picture over quite a bit before reading other comments. I couldn't see what areas you had worked on. After I read all the comments I took the picture into photoshop and played with extreme exposure, that many time will show the worked on areas, didn't see a flaw. Outstanding. The use of HDR was well executed. You're cropping was right on and the lettering was done flawlessly. I enjoy checking out a photo such as this that shows so much talent.
I looked your picture over quite a bit before reading other comments. I couldn't see what areas you had worked on. After I read all the comments I took the picture into photoshop and played with extreme exposure, that many time will show the worked on areas, didn't see a flaw. Outstanding. The use of HDR was well executed. You're cropping was right on and the lettering was done flawlessly. I enjoy checking out a photo such as this that shows so much talent.
Oct 4, 2016 07:43:35 #
mcveed wrote:
No. I am surprised that there is no evidence of multi image composition. One would expect muddy or indistinct reflections in the water. BTW, nice shot of a very interesting vessel.
Thank you for the kind words Don. As explained to Frank the reflections were brushed thru from the original image and given a blast of Nik Tonal Contrast.
I find I very very rarely end up with an image where HDR software can be applied universally and always end up stacking the HDR image with the originals and selectively working on various areas. HDR is not a quick process very often!
Oct 4, 2016 09:10:10 #
Oct 4, 2016 09:35:40 #
magnetoman wrote:
No, I wouldn't know, and I'm sure you don't want me to Billy. The only comparison with Chucks flower is that it prompted you to HDR this image - which is not a bad thing at all, but you have processed this with the subject in mind and it is not a dead flower.
Like Chuck's, it is superbly processed for the subject. The foreground has depth and the colours are perfect. Very nicely done and an interesting shot to boot!
Like Chuck's, it is superbly processed for the subject. The foreground has depth and the colours are perfect. Very nicely done and an interesting shot to boot!
Glad ya like it Dave and thank you for calling by.
Oct 4, 2016 09:38:44 #
trc wrote:
Hey Billy, br br I like it and can't 'really' tel... (show quote)
That bit of water received no special or different treatment so I reckon it must be as you say a section just shielded from the wind. Thank you for calling by Tom much appreciated my friend.
Oct 4, 2016 11:08:53 #
No, I would never have guessed there was any HDR on this! Others have remarked that they don't care for the "overcooked" look, and I am in that crowd. This is very, very skilfully done. I can't see any haloing or muddiness or anything not Ol Korrect. I think the work speaks for itself in that no one can tell what's been done without the recipe. I don't think it's any secret to anyone who has gotten to know me that I am far, far too lazy to do that much work, however. That big double-outrigger is an exceptional subject, so if I had made the picture I might invest the time, but gosh wotta lotta labor! (Incidentally, I wouldn't mind at all seeing the original shot that inspired it... 
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)Oct 4, 2016 12:41:44 #
Hi Billy....marine scenes always draw me to them and this of course no exception, well exposed/composed of course. But curiosity finally
drew me to the ""red things"...what in the world are they? That only led me to noticing the parallelogram area of reflection on the water ...
the area Tom mentioned above.....under the red horizontal curiosities......It just doesn't look natural, especially because there is one bit at
the right edge of that area where a large bit of red is reflected more naturally to correspond to the look of the water for the rest of the
scene. Not a fan of HDR myself, I tend to avoid those subjects where it seems "necessary" and hope for the best of what needs to be
preserved, but can only conclude that water which is moving would be something to be avoided. As done here, it probably doesn't ruin
the picture for folks not even aware of what photography can do and they will go back to contemplate the vessel and those red horizontal mystery
objects.....yeah, BTW what are they??
drew me to the ""red things"...what in the world are they? That only led me to noticing the parallelogram area of reflection on the water ...
the area Tom mentioned above.....under the red horizontal curiosities......It just doesn't look natural, especially because there is one bit at
the right edge of that area where a large bit of red is reflected more naturally to correspond to the look of the water for the rest of the
scene. Not a fan of HDR myself, I tend to avoid those subjects where it seems "necessary" and hope for the best of what needs to be
preserved, but can only conclude that water which is moving would be something to be avoided. As done here, it probably doesn't ruin
the picture for folks not even aware of what photography can do and they will go back to contemplate the vessel and those red horizontal mystery
objects.....yeah, BTW what are they??
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