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Oct 1, 2016 07:21:38   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Excuse my admitted ignorance, but without a viewfinder, how can mirrorless cameras be practical when the LCD panel becomes useless in bright daylight?

Thanks to all responders. >Alan

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Oct 1, 2016 07:28:21   #
jsenear Loc: Hopkins, MN.
 
There are various shading devices you can put over the LCD screen to take care of that problem.

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Oct 1, 2016 07:31:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
aellman wrote:
Excuse my admitted ignorance, but without a viewfinder, how can mirrorless cameras be practical when the LCD panel becomes useless in bright daylight?

Thanks to all responders. >Alan


Bingo! We have a winner!

That's why I call these "Point and Hope" cameras. I have a couple of very small compacts without viewfinders, and when I'm in bright sun, I'm not exactly sure what I'll get in the final image.

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Oct 1, 2016 07:33:17   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
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Oct 1, 2016 07:37:12   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
They can't be any more useful than a smart phone in such conditions.

THAT is why you buy a mirrorless camera with BOTH an articulating OLED display AND an electronic viewfinder, and a proximity sensor that can switch back and forth between them when you move the camera close to your eye!

I can use my OLED display to change focus, WHILE using the EVF. I just drag my finger around on it while watching the electronic focus shift.

If recording raw + JPEG, I can view in black and white, while recording raw color and B&W JPEGs. This really helps with monochrome visualization.

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Oct 1, 2016 07:42:04   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
Same thing applies with live view on a DSLR and most video cameras. And let's not forget about cell phone cameras.

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Oct 1, 2016 07:42:20   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jsenear wrote:
There are various shading devices you can put over the LCD screen to take care of that problem.

You mean something like they did back in the day?



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Oct 1, 2016 07:47:41   #
ejrmaine Loc: South Carolina
 
I've owned the mirrorless Fuji X-T1 for 2 years now and love it. The EVF took about 3 minutes to 'adjust to'. It replaced my Nikon D7000, and I don't regret a thing.

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Oct 1, 2016 08:05:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
You mean something like they did back in the day?



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Oct 1, 2016 08:18:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
aellman wrote:
Excuse my admitted ignorance, but without a viewfinder, how can mirrorless cameras be practical when the LCD panel becomes useless in bright daylight?

Thanks to all responders. >Alan


That is why they are so absolutely stupid and a waste of time, effort and money.

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Oct 1, 2016 08:22:11   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
burkphoto wrote:
They can't be any more useful than a smart phone in such conditions.

THAT is why you buy a mirrorless camera with BOTH an articulating OLED display AND an electronic viewfinder, and a proximity sensor that can switch back and forth between them when you move the camera close to your eye!

I can use my OLED display to change focus, WHILE using the EVF. I just drag my finger around on it while watching the electronic focus shift.

If recording raw + JPEG, I can view in black and white, while recording raw color and B&W JPEGs. This really helps with monochrome visualization.
They can't be any more useful than a smart phone i... (show quote)


** Makes perfect sense, so why are there so many mirrorless cameras for sale that lack viewfinders? Could this be the solution?



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Oct 1, 2016 08:23:54   #
BebuLamar
 
aellman wrote:
Makes perfect sense, so why are there so many mirrorless cameras for sale that lack viewfinders? Maybe the manufacturers want us to back to the days of 8x10 view cameras. See attached.


Because a lot of people hate the viewfinder.

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Oct 1, 2016 08:31:54   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
I've never seen a mirrorless camera without a viewfinder. Only the basic pocket and bridge cameras have just an LCD, like my Nikon Bridge L840. Anyone owning these cameras should already know the sunlight problems. Owning two backup cameras, one pocket and one bridge, without viewfinder, you just deal with the sunlight problem. There are sun shields you can purchase to eliminate or lessen this problem on LCD only cameras. Cost about $25. I do like my OVF on my DSLR though. But I could get accustomed to the EVF system, such as on the Sony mirrorless cameras. I know someone who just ordered a Sony a6300, and I've seen the Panasonic GX8 and GH4 once, at past outdoor events.

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Oct 1, 2016 09:48:39   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
mas24 wrote:
I've never seen a mirrorless camera without a viewfinder. Only the basic pocket and bridge cameras have just an LCD, like my Nikon Bridge L840. Anyone owning these cameras should already know the sunlight problems. Owning two backup cameras, one pocket and one bridge, without viewfinder, you just deal with the sunlight problem. There are sun shields you can purchase to eliminate or lessen this problem on LCD only cameras. Cost about $25. I do like my OVF on my DSLR though. But I could get accustomed to the EVF system, such as on the Sony mirrorless cameras. I know someone who just ordered a Sony a6300, and I've seen the Panasonic GX8 and GH4 once, at past outdoor events.
I've never seen a mirrorless camera without a view... (show quote)


I had a Sony mirrorless with no viewfinder. I quickly returned the purchase after my fist attempt at a landscape. >Alan

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Oct 1, 2016 09:58:22   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
aellman wrote:
... without a viewfinder, how can mirrorless cameras be practical ...

They cannot!!

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