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Sep 25, 2016 06:16:01 #
Tom G
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Yes, nice shot, nice pose, but something is missing from her physiognomy. Maybe try a closed mouth with slight smile, or anything different from what she displays in the photo.
Sep 25, 2016 06:59:02 #
The lighting and the B&W is beautiful. I too, find this particular expression to be a little off-putting. Like she's not enjoying posing or something.
Sep 25, 2016 07:20:42 #
Exactly how I feel, something missing, look like she don't like posing
Sep 25, 2016 07:53:47 #
Hands are always a problem she did well... and love that background... please some day just give us the background alone!
Tom..... haven't used or heard the word "physiognomy in" a long time... and yes, missing is the smile.
Tom..... haven't used or heard the word "physiognomy in" a long time... and yes, missing is the smile.
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Sep 25, 2016 10:25:37 #
dpullum wrote:
Hands are always a problem she did well... and love that background... please some day just give us the background alone!
Tom..... haven't used or heard the word "physiognomy in" a long time... and yes, missing is the smile.
Tom..... haven't used or heard the word "physiognomy in" a long time... and yes, missing is the smile.
I was going to say the same thing about Tom's comment. I helped a fellow graduate student translate a research paper on physiognomy from German to English back in 1974. Great word, but have not heard or seen it used since then.
Sep 25, 2016 10:40:47 #
A question/comment on the critiques that have addressed the expression on her face...
I don't do this kind of photography, but I wonder just how much control the photographer has over the physiognomy that people are picking on, vs how much is simply what the model was born with. You can say be angry, or smile, or pout, or seduce me with your look, but I am convinced there are certain "looks" that some models would be better at than others.
And how much depends on the moment of tripping the shutter? For this kind of photography does one take a shot or two and then change pose, or does one do the rapid-fire 10 fps as the model is moving and choose the one shot that has the perfect look?
I don't do this kind of photography, but I wonder just how much control the photographer has over the physiognomy that people are picking on, vs how much is simply what the model was born with. You can say be angry, or smile, or pout, or seduce me with your look, but I am convinced there are certain "looks" that some models would be better at than others.
And how much depends on the moment of tripping the shutter? For this kind of photography does one take a shot or two and then change pose, or does one do the rapid-fire 10 fps as the model is moving and choose the one shot that has the perfect look?
Sep 25, 2016 11:04:04 #
Robeng wrote:
Here's one of Julie
Rob,
I agree that the lighting for the image is good. I also agree that she needs to display a different look, and agree a closed smile would have been great. I was basically always taught, with a few minor exceptions, that the model - man or woman (more importantly for a woman), should have a closed smile for portrait and head shots. I'm sure there will be many that disagree, but that is just what I was taught years ago. As I previously said, there are exceptions of course. Thanks for uploading your image.
Best Regards,
Tom
Sep 25, 2016 12:08:36 #
chazz4623
Loc: Prairieville, La
Sorry but the image confuses me. Given that this field is about creativity, I dont see the op's intentions. On download, my first impression was confirmed, the lighting is washed out over large areas of Michelle's body and face. the lack of skin detail may be intentional, but to what aim I dont know. Such a beautiful model needs to be shown more flatteringly IMO. As art is in the eye of the beholder, I represent only my own views, but I do think much more could be accomplished with less lighting glare, more actual skin detail (pores, freckles, blemishes, etc.) and possibly a better focusing lens. Pure speculation on my part, but I have seen some extraordinary shots on this forum and thats my point of comparison. Perhaps, if strobes were used, the expression on Michelle's face is a reaction to that, or a sudden noise. Please, tell us her opinion of this shot, was she pleased or not. Please keep showing us your work, most of it is quite good.
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Sep 25, 2016 13:04:02 #
chazz4623 wrote:
Sorry but the image confuses me. Given that this f... (show quote)
The lighting is washed out - but to me it gives the impression of a pencil sketch, emphasized by the B&W treatment. That's why I like it.
Sep 25, 2016 14:16:40 #
Robeng
Loc: California
Okay gang here's one of Julie smiling. I agree, the expression Julie has in the original image could be better.
But she like's this image, what can I say.
Rob
But she like's this image, what can I say.
Rob
Julie smiling
Sep 25, 2016 14:28:00 #
Actually, I like both images. The first image with the reticent expression is intriguing, and her expression in the second image is comfortable, relaxed and inviting.
But you must have had the AC on a bit high -- she clearly needed a sweater to take the nippiness out of the air.
Hey, maybe that explains it -- in the first image she is feeling a bit cold; in the second she is grateful for the sweater.
But you must have had the AC on a bit high -- she clearly needed a sweater to take the nippiness out of the air.
Hey, maybe that explains it -- in the first image she is feeling a bit cold; in the second she is grateful for the sweater.
Sep 25, 2016 14:36:02 #
Robeng
Loc: California
JohnFrim wrote:
Actually, I like both images. The first image with the reticent expression is intriguing, and her expression in the second image is comfortable, relaxed and inviting.
But you must have had the AC on a bit high -- she clearly needed a sweater to take the nippiness out of the air.
Hey, maybe that explains it -- in the first image she is feeling a bit cold; in the second she is grateful for the sweater.
But you must have had the AC on a bit high -- she clearly needed a sweater to take the nippiness out of the air.
Hey, maybe that explains it -- in the first image she is feeling a bit cold; in the second she is grateful for the sweater.
John,
I really don't remember when or what the condition were when I took these images. I shoot 3 to 4 girls a month sometimes it gets confusing. Might have to go back and research.
Rob
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